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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14756 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/26/2019
Subject: Re: Masquerade Fairness Guidelines
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14757 From: Mera Shade Date: 11/26/2019
Subject: Re: motion to increase 2019 budget line item
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14758 From: Jeanine Date: 11/26/2019
Subject: Re: motion to increase 2019 budget line item
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14759 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/26/2019
Subject: Re: motion to increase 2019 budget line item
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14760 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/26/2019
Subject: Motion 11-26-2019-1
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14761 From: Byron Connell Date: 11/26/2019
Subject: Re: Masquerade Fairness Guidelines
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14762 From: ECM Mami Date: 11/26/2019
Subject: Re: Masquerade Fairness Guidelines
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14763 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/26/2019
Subject: 2020 Budget
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14764 From: Vicky Date: 11/27/2019
Subject: Budget motion
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14765 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/27/2019
Subject: Re: Budget motion
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14766 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/29/2019
Subject: Voting and surveys
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14767 From: Byron Connell Date: 11/29/2019
Subject: Re: 2020 Budget
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14768 From: Byron Connell Date: 11/29/2019
Subject: Re: Budget motion
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14769 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: New Poll in Slack
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14770 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: BoD conference call
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14771 From: randallwhitlock Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: BoD conference call
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14772 From: randallwhitlock Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: BoD conference call
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14773 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: BoD conference call
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14774 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: BoD conference call
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14775 From: randallwhitlock Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: BoD conference call
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14776 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: BoD conference call
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14777 From: ECM Mami Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: BoD conference call
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14778 From: Judy Mitchell Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: 2020 Budget
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14779 From: ECM Mami Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: 2020 Budget
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14780 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: BoD conference call
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14781 From: randallwhitlock Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: BoD conference call
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14782 From: randallwhitlock Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: BoD conference call
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14783 From: ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: File - Time to check in!
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14784 From: Betsy R. Marks Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14785 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14786 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: 2019 Survey of the Members - LAST DAY
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14787 From: randallwhitlock Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14788 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: CC 38 Business - Nominations
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14789 From: ECM Mami Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14790 From: Jeanine Swick Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14791 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: CC 38 Business - Nominations
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14792 From: Jeanine Swick Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: financial impact the voting on Motion 11-06-2019-1A1 could have.
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14793 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: financial impact the voting on Motion 11-06-2019-1A1 could have.
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14794 From: Merrily Wolf Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: financial impact the voting on Motion 11-06-2019-1A1 could have.
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14795 From: Anne Davenport Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14796 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: [ICG-D] Re: [ICG-BOD] financial impact the voting on Motion 11-0
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14797 From: Patrick J OConnor Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14798 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Communications management
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14799 From: Pierre and Sandy Pettinger Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14800 From: Jeanine Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: Communications management
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14801 From: Sheryl Nance-Durst Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14802 From: Byron Connell Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: 2020 Budget
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14803 From: Byron Connell Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14804 From: 57bebdc5a1eb9ba0b0bcaa20009c38c5 Date: 12/2/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14805 From: Lisa Ashton Date: 12/2/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!



Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14756 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/26/2019
Subject: Re: Masquerade Fairness Guidelines
Hi Merrily,

There were several questions there regarding sections to consider in the guidelines, including whether they might be better broken up, and an additional section for comments on the guidelines in general, as well as asking whether a permanent committee should be created to address updates as needed for the guidelines.  Please feel free to make any suggestions regarding the guidelines questions that you presented in that guidelines comments section also so they are included in the data on the survey.  If the comment is longer than the section allows for, there is an additional comments section at the end of the survey where you can put additional comments. These are all things we want to make sure are considered and get the members’ opinions on.

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

On Nov 26, 2019, at 9:02 AM, Merrily Wolf ma_walking_wolf@yahoo.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

Masquerade Fairness Guidelines

Looking at the survey, there is a good size section dedicated to the masquerade fairness guidelines. During my time reviewing the presented document, the redline, and short time on the committee, these items on the survey did not seem to be an issue. It seemed everyone wanted some version of anti-harassment, fairness, and accessibility guidelines to be included. There was a concern to make sure the wording for each of those was internationally acceptable and not USA focused. The part we seemed to get hung up on was judging categories. The committee was trying to decide if:

1) there should be just general judging section to fit all types of costumes

2) a general judging information in the guidelines with appendages for each type of costume (larger, new materials, sewing, genre, etc.) or

3) there should be a section in the main guidelines for everything which would need to be updated each time there is a new material available to customers.  

These were not addressed in the survey. Does anyone have any comments on how this should be handled in the guidelines?  

Merrily

GCFCG alt rep


Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14757 From: Mera Shade Date: 11/26/2019
Subject: Re: motion to increase 2019 budget line item
Thank you Jeanine and Judy.  However, I do not believe that this motion is necessary.  

To clarify, I have made a request to Jeanine under Standing Rule 30B, to make a payment to Maryland NonProfits in the amount of $100 to join their organization and gain access to their legal and consulting services, which seems a prudent expenditure with all of the legal policies proposed and to aid in the current issues and motions presented on the floor.

Standing Rule 30B states:  The treasurer shall report the Corporation's revenues and expenditures to the Board at least quarterly.  The Board may increase or decrease budgeted expenditures as needed during the course of each year.  To meet arising needs, the President may, without the Board's approval, increase or decrease budgeted expenditures each year by an amount not to exceed fifteen (15) percent of the budgeted amount and shall promptly report such changes to the Board.

I proposed this expenditure and gave a 7 day objection period, which is not required, but I did so in consideration to see if anyone opposed it in the previous email thread entitled "Maryland NonProfits".  No objections were made to this expenditure.  It is less than 15% of the budgeted amount for general business expenditures and can be included in the line item of "legal and consulting services."  It should not require motion, as it is within the President's purview to add to expenditures in this manner as necessary without Board approval.  

Here are the benefits that we can gain from joining:
- Access to legal counsel to assist with current matters before the board and policy suggestions
- Access to nonprofit consultants who can assist with advice and insight that might minimize or remove the need for some of the more controversial motions on the floor
- Resources and networks that can help ICG and its chapters.

Here's the link to their benefits:  https://www.marylandnonprofits.org/what-we-offer/

I again ask that the Treasurer make payment in the amount of $100 to Maryland NonProfits immediately.  Accessing their services in a timely manner is essential for many matters on the floor, including addressing the nature of many of these motions that may prove unnecessary by having their guidance and assistance.  

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux, Acting President



On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 9:04 AM judymitch@oldwaylane.net [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Seconded.
-Judy Mitchell
Northern Lights

Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14758 From: Jeanine Date: 11/26/2019
Subject: Re: motion to increase 2019 budget line item
You are wanting funds for something that has no budget line item in the 2019 budget. It states 15% of a budgeted amount and this line item does not have a line item in the budget for 2019, 15% of $0 is $0. So this needs to go before the board for approval.

On 11/26/2019 10:48 AM, Mera Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] wrote:
 
Thank you Jeanine and Judy.  However, I do not believe that this motion is necessary.  

To clarify, I have made a request to Jeanine under Standing Rule 30B, to make a payment to Maryland NonProfits in the amount of $100 to join their organization and gain access to their legal and consulting services, which seems a prudent expenditure with all of the legal policies proposed and to aid in the current issues and motions presented on the floor.

Standing Rule 30B states:  The treasurer shall report the Corporation's revenues and expenditures to the Board at least quarterly.  The Board may increase or decrease budgeted expenditures as needed during the course of each year.  To meet arising needs, the President may, without the Board's approval, increase or decrease budgeted expenditures each year by an amount not to exceed fifteen (15) percent of the budgeted amount and shall promptly report such changes to the Board.

I proposed this expenditure and gave a 7 day objection period, which is not required, but I did so in consideration to see if anyone opposed it in the previous email thread entitled "Maryland NonProfits".  No objections were made to this expenditure.  It is less than 15% of the budgeted amount for general business expenditures and can be included in the line item of "legal and consulting services."  It should not require motion, as it is within the President's purview to add to expenditures in this manner as necessary without Board approval.  

Here are the benefits that we can gain from joining:
- Access to legal counsel to assist with current matters before the board and policy suggestions
- Access to nonprofit consultants who can assist with advice and insight that might minimize or remove the need for some of the more controversial motions on the floor
- Resources and networks that can help ICG and its chapters.

Here's the link to their benefits:  https://www.marylandnonprofits.org/what-we-offer/

I again ask that the Treasurer make payment in the amount of $100 to Maryland NonProfits immediately.  Accessing their services in a timely manner is essential for many matters on the floor, including addressing the nature of many of these motions that may prove unnecessary by having their guidance and assistance.  

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux, Acting President



On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 9:04 AM judymitch@oldwaylane.net [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Seconded.
-Judy Mitchell
Northern Lights


Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14759 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/26/2019
Subject: Re: motion to increase 2019 budget line item
The section of the budget for the expenditure is general business expenditures.  Moving the expenditure to a new line item is not outside of the purview according to the standing rules and bylaws.  The expenditure is less than 15% of the general business budget.  Please make the payment accordingly.

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

On Nov 26, 2019, at 11:18 AM, Jeanine jeanine@woollycat.net [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

You are wanting funds for something that has no budget line item in the 2019 budget. It states 15% of a budgeted amount and this line item does not have a line item in the budget for 2019, 15% of $0 is $0. So this needs to go before the board for approval.

On 11/26/2019 10:48 AM, Mera Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] wrote:
 
Thank you Jeanine and Judy.  However, I do not believe that this motion is necessary.  

To clarify, I have made a request to Jeanine under Standing Rule 30B, to make a payment to Maryland NonProfits in the amount of $100 to join their organization and gain access to their legal and consulting services, which seems a prudent expenditure with all of the legal policies proposed and to aid in the current issues and motions presented on the floor.

Standing Rule 30B states:  The treasurer shall report the Corporation's revenues and expenditures to the Board at least quarterly.  The Board may increase or decrease budgeted expenditures as needed during the course of each year.  To meet arising needs, the President may, without the Board's approval, increase or decrease budgeted expenditures each year by an amount not to exceed fifteen (15) percent of the budgeted amount and shall promptly report such changes to the Board.

I proposed this expenditure and gave a 7 day objection period, which is not required, but I did so in consideration to see if anyone opposed it in the previous email thread entitled "Maryland NonProfits".  No objections were made to this expenditure.  It is less than 15% of the budgeted amount for general business expenditures and can be included in the line item of "legal and consulting services."  It should not require motion, as it is within the President's purview to add to expenditures in this manner as necessary without Board approval.  

Here are the benefits that we can gain from joining:
- Access to legal counsel to assist with current matters before the board and policy suggestions
- Access to nonprofit consultants who can assist with advice and insight that might minimize or remove the need for some of the more controversial motions on the floor
- Resources and networks that can help ICG and its chapters.

Here's the link to their benefits:  https://www.marylandnonprofits.org/what-we-offer/

I again ask that the Treasurer make payment in the amount of $100 to Maryland NonProfits immediately.  Accessing their services in a timely manner is essential for many matters on the floor, including addressing the nature of many of these motions that may prove unnecessary by having their guidance and assistance.  

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux, Acting President



On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 9:04 AM judymitch@oldwaylane.net [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Seconded.
-Judy Mitchell
Northern Lights


Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14760 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/26/2019
Subject: Motion 11-26-2019-1
New motion on the floor.

Motion 11-26-2019-1: motion that the BoD amend the approved 2019 budget (Dec 31, 2018) to add $100 to the new line item Legal and Business fees to pay for a membership in the MD Non-Profits organization.

Discussion period ends 12-11-2019, voting period ends 12-27-2019 (adjusting for the holiday).

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14761 From: Byron Connell Date: 11/26/2019
Subject: Re: Masquerade Fairness Guidelines
Merrily —

I favor keeping a general judging section. In judging a costume we look at (1) the quality of workmanship and (2) the appearance of the costume on stage. The concerns seem to center around workmanship judging, which is optional in the kinds of masquerades I usually see (except for the Costume-Con historical masquerade). The size of the costume and the materials used should make no difference. If materials are new to the judges, they can and should ask the costumer about the stuff used. Size should make no difference at all. Just look at the whole thing. The questions are the same. Is it well made or does it show signs of sloppy or poor workmanship? (Workmanship is not just sewing.) The masquerades with which I’m familiar do not restrict the number of awards the judges may make, so the question of comparing a futuristic motorcycle (at BucConeer in 1998) to a costume well made from cloth. Each could receive an award.

How a costume appears onstage can be judged no matter what it’s made from or how large it is.

I see very large costumes as principally a headache for backstage staff (including the green room staff). They’re also not new. "Night on Bald Mountain,” at the L.A.Con II masquerade (1984), included a demon with a 24 foot wing span as one component of a group presentation. The wings were furled until the presentation, where electric motors opened them to their full spread, then retracted them at the end. Fortunately, the L.A.Con II stage was quite large. At Millennium Philcon in 2000, the same entrant who did the 1998 motorcycle wore a 15 foot tall dragon, Here, the principal problem was how to get it to the stage. I was the green room manager and, as I recall, a team of den moms carried the costume to the wing, where the entrant climbed into it. Was it a headache? Yes. but there have been many other types of headaches for backstage staff. Did we solve the problem, Yes, we did. At the most, the fairness guidelines could warn masquerade directors that they may run into costumes, including large ones, that require special handling.

Byron


On Nov 26, 2019, at 9:00 AM, Merrily Wolf ma_walking_wolf@yahoo.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Masquerade Fairness Guidelines 

Looking at the survey, there is a good size section dedicated to the masquerade fairness guidelines. During my time reviewing the presented document, the redline, and short time on the committee, these items on the survey did not seem to be an issue. It seemed everyone wanted some version of anti-harassment, fairness, and accessibility guidelines to be included. There was a concern to make sure the wording for each of those was internationally acceptable and not USA focused. The part we seemed to get hung up on was judging categories. The committee was trying to decide if:

1) there should be just general judging section to fit all types of costumes 

2) a general judging information in the guidelines with appendages for each type of costume (larger, new materials, sewing, genre, etc.) or 

3) there should be a section in the main guidelines for everything which would need to be updated each time there is a new material available to customers.  

These were not addressed in the survey. Does anyone have any comments on how this should be handled in the guidelines?  

Merrily 

GCFCG alt rep




Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14762 From: ECM Mami Date: 11/26/2019
Subject: Re: Masquerade Fairness Guidelines
Very well stated, Byron.  There is no reason to over-complicate the judging.  I've seen judging panels get lost in the amount of time needed to build the costume to how many sequins were used.  Both totally not relevant to the workmanship nor to the way the costume "works" on stage.

Elaine


From: ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Byron Connell byronpconnell@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 7:56 PM
To: ICG-BOD Directors <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] Masquerade Fairness Guidelines
 
 

Merrily —


I favor keeping a general judging section. In judging a costume we look at (1) the quality of workmanship and (2) the appearance of the costume on stage. The concerns seem to center around workmanship judging, which is optional in the kinds of masquerades I usually see (except for the Costume-Con historical masquerade). The size of the costume and the materials used should make no difference. If materials are new to the judges, they can and should ask the costumer about the stuff used. Size should make no difference at all. Just look at the whole thing. The questions are the same. Is it well made or does it show signs of sloppy or poor workmanship? (Workmanship is not just sewing.) The masquerades with which I’m familiar do not restrict the number of awards the judges may make, so the question of comparing a futuristic motorcycle (at BucConeer in 1998) to a costume well made from cloth. Each could receive an award.

How a costume appears onstage can be judged no matter what it’s made from or how large it is.

I see very large costumes as principally a headache for backstage staff (including the green room staff). They’re also not new. "Night on Bald Mountain,” at the L.A.Con II masquerade (1984), included a demon with a 24 foot wing span as one component of a group presentation. The wings were furled until the presentation, where electric motors opened them to their full spread, then retracted them at the end. Fortunately, the L.A.Con II stage was quite large. At Millennium Philcon in 2000, the same entrant who did the 1998 motorcycle wore a 15 foot tall dragon, Here, the principal problem was how to get it to the stage. I was the green room manager and, as I recall, a team of den moms carried the costume to the wing, where the entrant climbed into it. Was it a headache? Yes. but there have been many other types of headaches for backstage staff. Did we solve the problem, Yes, we did. At the most, the fairness guidelines could warn masquerade directors that they may run into costumes, including large ones, that require special handling.

Byron


On Nov 26, 2019, at 9:00 AM, Merrily Wolf ma_walking_wolf@yahoo.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Masquerade Fairness Guidelines 

Looking at the survey, there is a good size section dedicated to the masquerade fairness guidelines. During my time reviewing the presented document, the redline, and short time on the committee, these items on the survey did not seem to be an issue. It seemed everyone wanted some version of anti-harassment, fairness, and accessibility guidelines to be included. There was a concern to make sure the wording for each of those was internationally acceptable and not USA focused. The part we seemed to get hung up on was judging categories. The committee was trying to decide if:

1) there should be just general judging section to fit all types of costumes 

2) a general judging information in the guidelines with appendages for each type of costume (larger, new materials, sewing, genre, etc.) or 

3) there should be a section in the main guidelines for everything which would need to be updated each time there is a new material available to customers.  

These were not addressed in the survey. Does anyone have any comments on how this should be handled in the guidelines?  

Merrily 

GCFCG alt rep




Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14763 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/26/2019
Subject: 2020 Budget
The budget still needs to be motioned and seconded, and as there are only 32 days left in the year (adjusting for holidays), and it has to be adopted by December 31, I’m asking again for someone to please move and second the 2020 budget.

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14764 From: Vicky Date: 11/27/2019
Subject: Budget motion

I move that we adopt the 2020 proposed budget.

Vicky Assarattanakul - Corresponding Secretary

 

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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14765 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/27/2019
Subject: Re: Budget motion
This was seconded in Slack by Jacalyn Boggs.

Motion 11-27-2019-1 Motion to adopt the proposed 2020 budget.

Discussion period ends December 12, 2019, @10:33am, voting period ends December 30, 2019@10:33am, adjusted for holidays.

Then an amendment was made by Jacalyn Boggs and seconded by Vicky Assarattanakul:

Motion 11-27-2019-1A Motion to amend the 2020 budget to include the $100 annual membership fee to Maryland Nonprofits as a line item entitled “legal and consulting services” in the general expenditures section.

Discussion period ends 12/12/2019 @10:44am, voting period ends December 30, 2019 @10:44am, adjusted for holidays.

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

On Nov 27, 2019, at 10:59 AM, Vicky ayekasong@hotmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

I move that we adopt the 2020 proposed budget.

Vicky Assarattanakul - Corresponding Secretary

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14766 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/29/2019
Subject: Voting and surveys
Hope everyone had a great turkey day celebration for those that chose to celebrate!  Please don’t forget to cast your vote in Slack on the motions on the floor and to elect a VP.  You can find them by clicking on the board of directors channel, then clicking on “pinned posts.”

Also, the survey is still live until Sunday night at 11:59pm, so please share in your member groups! 

Thanks!

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14767 From: Byron Connell Date: 11/29/2019
Subject: Re: 2020 Budget
I thought we adopted the 2020 budget at the BoD meeting at CC 37.

Byron

 
On Nov 26, 2019, at 11:55 PM, Shimmer Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

The budget still needs to be motioned and seconded, and as there are only 32 days left in the year (adjusting for holidays), and it has to be adopted by December 31, I’m asking again for someone to please move and second the 2020 budget.

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux


Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14768 From: Byron Connell Date: 11/29/2019
Subject: Re: Budget motion
I seem to recall that the 2020 budget was adopted by the Board at its meeting at CC 37. Can the Recording Secretary clarify that?

Byron


On Nov 27, 2019, at 11:13 AM, Shimmer Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

This was seconded in Slack by Jacalyn Boggs.


Motion 11-27-2019-1 Motion to adopt the proposed 2020 budget.

Discussion period ends December 12, 2019, @10:33am, voting period ends December 30, 2019@10:33am, adjusted for holidays.

Then an amendment was made by Jacalyn Boggs and seconded by Vicky Assarattanakul:

Motion 11-27-2019-1A Motion to amend the 2020 budget to include the $100 annual membership fee to Maryland Nonprofits as a line item entitled “legal and consulting services” in the general expenditures section.

Discussion period ends 12/12/2019 @10:44am, voting period ends December 30, 2019 @10:44am, adjusted for holidays.

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

On Nov 27, 2019, at 10:59 AM, Vicky ayekasong@hotmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

I move that we adopt the 2020 proposed budget.

Vicky Assarattanakul - Corresponding Secretary

 

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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14769 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: New Poll in Slack
There is a new poll in Slack on the amendment to amend the language on 11-06-2019-1A (regarding creation of policies).

This poll can be found in the new #polls channel.

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14770 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: BoD conference call
There will be a BoD conference call on Sunday, December 8, 2019 @ 7pm, as that was the result of the poll that had the most BoD reps able to attend.

Please email me with any items you would like on the agenda by 5pm, Monday, December 2, 2019. I will finalize the agenda and send it out with conference call instructions (how to join the call, etc) shortly thereafter.

Have a great rest of the weekend!

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14771 From: randallwhitlock Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: BoD conference call
Time zone?
 
 
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Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2019 9:54 am
Subject: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call

 

There will be a BoD conference call on Sunday, December 8, 2019 @ 7pm, as that was the result of the poll that had the most BoD reps able to attend.

Please email me with any items you would like on the agenda by 5pm, Monday, December 2, 2019. I will finalize the agenda and send it out with conference call instructions (how to join the call, etc) shortly thereafter.

Have a great rest of the weekend!

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14772 From: randallwhitlock Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: BoD conference call
Also, I will need some technical information about how to join.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: randwhit@aol.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
To: ICG-BOD <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2019 10:02 am
Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call

 
Time zone?
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Shimmer Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
To: ICG-BOD <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2019 9:54 am
Subject: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call

 

There will be a BoD conference call on Sunday, December 8, 2019 @ 7pm, as that was the result of the poll that had the most BoD reps able to attend.

Please email me with any items you would like on the agenda by 5pm, Monday, December 2, 2019. I will finalize the agenda and send it out with conference call instructions (how to join the call, etc) shortly thereafter.

Have a great rest of the weekend!

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14773 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: BoD conference call
Apologies, it should have said EST.

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

On Nov 30, 2019, at 12:02 PM, randwhit@aol.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

Time zone?
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Shimmer Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
To: ICG-BOD <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2019 9:54 am
Subject: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call

 

There will be a BoD conference call on Sunday, December 8, 2019 @ 7pm, as that was the result of the poll that had the most BoD reps able to attend.

Please email me with any items you would like on the agenda by 5pm, Monday, December 2, 2019. I will finalize the agenda and send it out with conference call instructions (how to join the call, etc) shortly thereafter.

Have a great rest of the weekend!

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14774 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: BoD conference call
Yes, that will be going out Monday evening after any additions to the agenda are made.  

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

On Nov 30, 2019, at 12:03 PM, randwhit@aol.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

Also, I will need some technical information about how to join.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: randwhit@aol.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
To: ICG-BOD <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2019 10:02 am
Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call

 
Time zone?
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Shimmer Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
To: ICG-BOD <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2019 9:54 am
Subject: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call

 

There will be a BoD conference call on Sunday, December 8, 2019 @ 7pm, as that was the result of the poll that had the most BoD reps able to attend.

Please email me with any items you would like on the agenda by 5pm, Monday, December 2, 2019. I will finalize the agenda and send it out with conference call instructions (how to join the call, etc) shortly thereafter.

Have a great rest of the weekend!

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14775 From: randallwhitlock Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: BoD conference call
Thanks, I will be looking for the instructions.
 
I work for a dirt engineering company that keeps early hours, so If the call goes any longer than an hour, I will have to bail.
 
Randall
 
SWCG
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Shimmer Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
To: ICG-BOD <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2019 10:23 am
Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call

 
Yes, that will be going out Monday evening after any additions to the agenda are made.  

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

On Nov 30, 2019, at 12:03 PM, randwhit@aol.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  
Also, I will need some technical information about how to join.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: randwhit@aol.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
To: ICG-BOD <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2019 10:02 am
Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call

 
Time zone?
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Shimmer Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
To: ICG-BOD <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2019 9:54 am
Subject: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call

 

There will be a BoD conference call on Sunday, December 8, 2019 @ 7pm, as that was the result of the poll that had the most BoD reps able to attend.

Please email me with any items you would like on the agenda by 5pm, Monday, December 2, 2019. I will finalize the agenda and send it out with conference call instructions (how to join the call, etc) shortly thereafter.

Have a great rest of the weekend!

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14776 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: BoD conference call
I hope to keep it under an hour.  We will stay on track with the agenda.  Appropriate material for review will be sent out with the agenda so everyone can prepare before accordingly.

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

On Nov 30, 2019, at 12:28 PM, randwhit@aol.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

Thanks, I will be looking for the instructions.
 
I work for a dirt engineering company that keeps early hours, so If the call goes any longer than an hour, I will have to bail.
 
Randall
 
SWCG
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Shimmer Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
To: ICG-BOD <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2019 10:23 am
Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call

 
Yes, that will be going out Monday evening after any additions to the agenda are made.  

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

On Nov 30, 2019, at 12:03 PM, randwhit@aol.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  
Also, I will need some technical information about how to join.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: randwhit@aol.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
To: ICG-BOD <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2019 10:02 am
Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call

 
Time zone?
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Shimmer Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
To: ICG-BOD <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2019 9:54 am
Subject: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call

 

There will be a BoD conference call on Sunday, December 8, 2019 @ 7pm, as that was the result of the poll that had the most BoD reps able to attend.

Please email me with any items you would like on the agenda by 5pm, Monday, December 2, 2019. I will finalize the agenda and send it out with conference call instructions (how to join the call, etc) shortly thereafter.

Have a great rest of the weekend!

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14777 From: ECM Mami Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: BoD conference call
Randall, that appears to be 9 p.m. out here in the Wild Wild West!
Elaine


From: ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Shimmer Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 12:23 PM
To: ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call
 
 

Yes, that will be going out Monday evening after any additions to the agenda are made.  

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

On Nov 30, 2019, at 12:03 PM, randwhit@aol.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

Also, I will need some technical information about how to join.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: randwhit@aol.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
To: ICG-BOD <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2019 10:02 am
Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call

 
Time zone?
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Shimmer Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
To: ICG-BOD <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2019 9:54 am
Subject: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call

 

There will be a BoD conference call on Sunday, December 8, 2019 @ 7pm, as that was the result of the poll that had the most BoD reps able to attend.

Please email me with any items you would like on the agenda by 5pm, Monday, December 2, 2019. I will finalize the agenda and send it out with conference call instructions (how to join the call, etc) shortly thereafter.

Have a great rest of the weekend!

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14778 From: Judy Mitchell Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: 2020 Budget
Byron, I *think* (and I could be wrong here), but what we did at CC37
was ratify the 2019 provisional budget as official. As I recall, we tend
to be offset a bit, so at the end of the year we provisionally vote on
the budget for the following year because we have to have some sort of
operating funds, but it isn't officially accepted until the annual
meeting. It's a little wonky, but it's what we've been doing.
-Judy Mitchell, Northern Lights


On 11/29/2019 6:55 PM, Byron Connell byronpconnell@gmail.com [ICG-BOD]
wrote:
>
>
> I thought we adopted the 2020 budget at the BoD meeting at CC 37.
>
> Byron
>
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14779 From: ECM Mami Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: 2020 Budget
Have we *EVER* done anything that isn't a bit wonky?


From: ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Judy Mitchell judymitch@oldwaylane.net [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 7:22 PM
To: ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] 2020 Budget
 
 

Byron, I *think* (and I could be wrong here), but what we did at CC37
was ratify the 2019 provisional budget as official. As I recall, we tend
to be offset a bit, so at the end of the year we provisionally vote on
the budget for the following year because we have to have some sort of
operating funds, but it isn't officially accepted until the annual
meeting. It's a little wonky, but it's what we've been doing.
-Judy Mitchell, Northern Lights

On 11/29/2019 6:55 PM, Byron Connell byronpconnell@gmail.com [ICG-BOD]
wrote:

>
>
> I thought we adopted the 2020 budget at the BoD meeting at CC 37.
>
> Byron
>

Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14780 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: BoD conference call
Lol, it’s been a bit since I lived in California and Washington...  So I had to google (which I’m going to trust because I’m not great with time changes lol). It’s 4PM PST, 5PM Arizona Time, 6PM CST, 7PM EST.  I’ll put the times in the info email too. 😊

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

On Nov 30, 2019, at 7:13 PM, ECM Mami ecmami@hotmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

Randall, that appears to be 9 p.m. out here in the Wild Wild West!
Elaine


From: ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Shimmer Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 12:23 PM
To: ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call
 
 

Yes, that will be going out Monday evening after any additions to the agenda are made.  

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

On Nov 30, 2019, at 12:03 PM, randwhit@aol.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

Also, I will need some technical information about how to join.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: randwhit@aol.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
To: ICG-BOD <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2019 10:02 am
Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call

 
Time zone?
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Shimmer Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
To: ICG-BOD <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2019 9:54 am
Subject: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call

 

There will be a BoD conference call on Sunday, December 8, 2019 @ 7pm, as that was the result of the poll that had the most BoD reps able to attend.

Please email me with any items you would like on the agenda by 5pm, Monday, December 2, 2019. I will finalize the agenda and send it out with conference call instructions (how to join the call, etc) shortly thereafter.

Have a great rest of the weekend!

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14781 From: randallwhitlock Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: BoD conference call
Yup. I need to crash by 10 to be awake for Monday.

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com

On Saturday, November 30, 2019, ECM Mami ecmami@hotmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Randall, that appears to be 9 p.m. out here in the Wild Wild West!
Elaine


From: ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Shimmer Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 12:23 PM
To: ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call
 
 

Yes, that will be going out Monday evening after any additions to the agenda are made.  

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

On Nov 30, 2019, at 12:03 PM, randwhit@aol.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

Also, I will need some technical information about how to join.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: randwhit@aol.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
To: ICG-BOD <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2019 10:02 am
Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call

 
Time zone?
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Shimmer Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
To: ICG-BOD <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2019 9:54 am
Subject: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call

 

There will be a BoD conference call on Sunday, December 8, 2019 @ 7pm, as that was the result of the poll that had the most BoD reps able to attend.

Please email me with any items you would like on the agenda by 5pm, Monday, December 2, 2019. I will finalize the agenda and send it out with conference call instructions (how to join the call, etc) shortly thereafter.

Have a great rest of the weekend!

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14782 From: randallwhitlock Date: 11/30/2019
Subject: Re: BoD conference call
Sorry, I did the math backward. Now I need to careful to be home from our chapter meeting on time.

Good thing I wasn’t calculating longitude. I’d have crashed the ship into a continent.

Randall

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com

On Saturday, November 30, 2019, Shimmer Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Lol, it’s been a bit since I lived in California and Washington...  So I had to google (which I’m going to trust because I’m not great with time changes lol). It’s 4PM PST, 5PM Arizona Time, 6PM CST, 7PM EST.  I’ll put the times in the info email too. 😊


Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

On Nov 30, 2019, at 7:13 PM, ECM Mami ecmami@hotmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

Randall, that appears to be 9 p.m. out here in the Wild Wild West!
Elaine


From: ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Shimmer Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 12:23 PM
To: ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call
 
 

Yes, that will be going out Monday evening after any additions to the agenda are made.  

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

On Nov 30, 2019, at 12:03 PM, randwhit@aol.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

Also, I will need some technical information about how to join.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: randwhit@aol.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
To: ICG-BOD <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2019 10:02 am
Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call

 
Time zone?
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Shimmer Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
To: ICG-BOD <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2019 9:54 am
Subject: [ICG-BOD] BoD conference call

 

There will be a BoD conference call on Sunday, December 8, 2019 @ 7pm, as that was the result of the poll that had the most BoD reps able to attend.

Please email me with any items you would like on the agenda by 5pm, Monday, December 2, 2019. I will finalize the agenda and send it out with conference call instructions (how to join the call, etc) shortly thereafter.

Have a great rest of the weekend!

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14783 From: ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: File - Time to check in!
All board members are to check in within the first week of the month. Please state your name, chapter and position. Please always sign your name on all posts.

Membership reports are due to the Treasurer at icg-treasurer@costume.org by the 7th of the month.

From
ICG-BOD Calendar
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14784 From: Betsy R. Marks Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!
Betsy R. Marks 
President, Silicon Web
Rep, ICG BOD

--
Betsy R. Marks
www.hawkeswood.com

On Sun, Dec 1, 2019, 5:21 AM <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 


All board members are to check in within the first week of the month. Please state your name, chapter and position. Please always sign your name on all posts.

Membership reports are due to the Treasurer at icg-treasurer@costume.org by the 7th of the month.

From
ICG-BOD Calendar

Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14785 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!
Please remember to also check in on Slack.

Checking in.

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux, Acting President

On Dec 1, 2019, at 7:52 AM, 'Betsy R. Marks' aramintamd@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

Betsy R. Marks 
President, Silicon Web
Rep, ICG BOD

--
Betsy R. Marks
www.hawkeswood.com

On Sun, Dec 1, 2019, 5:21 AM <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 


All board members are to check in within the first week of the month. Please state your name, chapter and position. Please always sign your name on all posts.

Membership reports are due to the Treasurer at icg-treasurer@costume..org by the 7th of the month.

From
ICG-BOD Calendar

Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14786 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: 2019 Survey of the Members - LAST DAY

Don’t forget to fill out the 2019 ICG Survey of Members!  The survey results up to 11:59pm EST 12/1/2019 will be published (without names, in random order) tomorrow on the Slack channel #2019survey.  Please click the link below to make your opinion know on many of the motions and discussions that are currently occurring in committees and Board of Directors. 


https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe-bgGojr4IVAd-q27buXAvBUmpJzvhJBuxMNZZ8WDG3IrtTw/viewform



Cordially,
Mera Babineaux
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14787 From: randallwhitlock Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!
Leftovers today. Jury duty tomorrow.

Randall Whitlock
Southwest Costumers Guild

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
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On Sunday, December 1, 2019, ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 


All board members are to check in within the first week of the month. Please state your name, chapter and position. Please always sign your name on all posts.

Membership reports are due to the Treasurer at icg-treasurer@costume.org by the 7th of the month.

From
ICG-BOD Calendar

Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14788 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: CC 38 Business - Nominations

Just a few reminders to send your nominations for officers for the 2020 election, the 2020 LAA award, and 2020 President’s awards to icg-president@gmail.com.

Nominations for officers:
You may volunteer for any position.  Please send your nominations stating who you are, who you’re nominating, and the position.  If there is more than one person nominated for each position, then we will print ballots for the annual meeting at CostumeCon 38.  Proxy voting will be allowed per the bylaws and instructions and forms for proxy voting are on the website.  

LAA Nominations:
There are only 45 days left to nominate for the Lifetime Achievement Award!  Please review the requirements on our website:  http://costume.org/wp/icg-lifetime-achievement-award/ and send your nominations soon!  Ballots will be sent out in January to all chapter representatives.

President’s Awards:
Please send any recommendations that you have for individuals that should considered for President’s awards to icg-president@costume.org.

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14789 From: ECM Mami Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!
Happy month of the Gift-Giving Holiday of Your Choice!  We observe that religiously in our house.
Elaine Mami, LACE Pres.; Sick Pups Corres. Sec.; General volunteer!

From: ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2019 5:21 AM
To: ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [ICG-BOD] File - Time to check in!
 
 


All board members are to check in within the first week of the month. Please state your name, chapter and position. Please always sign your name on all posts.

Membership reports are due to the Treasurer at icg-treasurer@costume.org by the 7th of the month.

From
ICG-BOD Calendar

Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14790 From: Jeanine Swick Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!
ICG Treasurer here

Jeanine
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14791 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: CC 38 Business - Nominations
At this time, Vicky Assarattanakul has chosen not to remain in the position of corresponding secretary and I will not be running for Vice President (or President) again.

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

On Dec 1, 2019, at 11:39 AM, Shimmer Shade <mera.babineaux@gmail.com> wrote:



Just a few reminders to send your nominations for officers for the 2020 election, the 2020 LAA award, and 2020 President’s awards to icg-president@gmail.com.

Nominations for officers:
You may volunteer for any position.  Please send your nominations stating who you are, who you’re nominating, and the position.  If there is more than one person nominated for each position, then we will print ballots for the annual meeting at CostumeCon 38.  Proxy voting will be allowed per the bylaws and instructions and forms for proxy voting are on the website.  

LAA Nominations:
There are only 45 days left to nominate for the Lifetime Achievement Award!  Please review the requirements on our website:  http://costume.org/wp/icg-lifetime-achievement-award/ and send your nominations soon!  Ballots will be sent out in January to all chapter representatives.

President’s Awards:
Please send any recommendations that you have for individuals that should considered for President’s awards to icg-president@costume.org.

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14792 From: Jeanine Swick Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: financial impact the voting on Motion 11-06-2019-1A1 could have.
Speaking as the ICG Treasurer here hoping to make a clearer understanding about the potential financial impact the voting on Motion 11-06-2019-1A1 could have.A YES vote means we MUST RESEARCH the costs of hiring a lawyer to write policies we could probably get for free and decide if we want to spend the money. A NO vote means we MUST HIRE a lawyer to write policies we could probably get for free regardless of cost or whether it could bankrupt the corporation.
Jeanine Swick, Treasurer
International Costumers' Guild, Inc
icg-treasurer@costume.org
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14793 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: financial impact the voting on Motion 11-06-2019-1A1 could have.
Or, a no vote could mean that we want to simply vote down the proposal entirely in favor of using Maryland Nonprofits services for $100/year and ensure that we’re using a nonprofit attorney in the state of Maryland for the lowest cost. (That’s why I voted no, lol.)

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

On Dec 1, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Jeanine Swick icg-treasurer@costume.org [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

Speaking as the ICG Treasurer here hoping to make a clearer understanding about the potential financial impact the voting on Motion 11-06-2019-1A1 could have.A YES vote means we MUST RESEARCH the costs of hiring a lawyer to write policies we could probably get for free and decide if we want to spend the money. A NO vote means we MUST HIRE a lawyer to write policies we could probably get for free regardless of cost or whether it could bankrupt the corporation.

Jeanine Swick, Treasurer
International Costumers' Guild, Inc
icg-treasurer@costume.org

Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14794 From: Merrily Wolf Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: financial impact the voting on Motion 11-06-2019-1A1 could have.
Wouldn’t the MD non profit be a quote for their services for the listed items. A no vote would mean we have to hire a lawyer instead of their services. At least that is how I’m reading the motion.

Merrily 
GCFCG alt. 


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On Sunday, December 1, 2019, 2:21 PM, Shimmer Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Or, a no vote could mean that we want to simply vote down the proposal entirely in favor of using Maryland Nonprofits services for $100/year and ensure that we’re using a nonprofit attorney in the state of Maryland for the lowest cost. (That’s why I voted no, lol.)

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

On Dec 1, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Jeanine Swick icg-treasurer@costume.org [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

Speaking as the ICG Treasurer here hoping to make a clearer understanding about the potential financial impact the voting on Motion 11-06-2019-1A1 could have.A YES vote means we MUST RESEARCH the costs of hiring a lawyer to write policies we could probably get for free and decide if we want to spend the money. A NO vote means we MUST HIRE a lawyer to write policies we could probably get for free regardless of cost or whether it could bankrupt the corporation.

Jeanine Swick, Treasurer
International Costumers' Guild, Inc
icg-treasurer@costume.org

Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14795 From: Anne Davenport Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!
Anne Davenport -- Recording Secretary, up to my ankles in pattern pieces and e-mail.


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On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 11:34 AM Jeanine Swick icg-treasurer@costume.org [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
ICG Treasurer here

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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14796 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: [ICG-D] Re: [ICG-BOD] financial impact the voting on Motion 11-0
I’m going to copy and paste everything from Slack here so that it actually shows the commentary that is missing in between.  (Vicky, I got it so no worries about cross posting this part.)

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

Merrily Wolf:  Wouldn’t the MD non profit be a quote for their services for the listed items. A no vote would mean we have to hire a lawyer instead of their services. At least that is how I’m reading the motion.

Mera Babineaux:  Actually, Maryland Nonprofit offers a lot of services to their members for the $100 membership fee including consulting on policies and things like this.  It’s a lot better use of funds to just go through them than to pay our retainers and billable hours to a Maryland attorney, IMHO.  It would be good to have the motion withdrawn or voted down so that a policy committee could be put together and put the policies together to have Maryland Nonprofits review and offer changes to.

Dragan Rose:  Could we get some clarification on Motion 11-06-2019 1A1? Does a "No" vote require us to hire a lawyer? Not what it could mean, what is DOES mean. I want to understand exactly what the outcome of each of the votes are.

Mera Rose:  No on this puts the language back to 1A.  Honestly, if you don’t want any of it, voting no as each amendment and the original come up would do that.  If you want to change the language to investigate hiring attorneys and not make any decisions on that until the annual meeting, then vote yes on 1A1.  If you want to hire an attorney to draft the language then vote yes on 1A and no on 1A1.  If you want to do something else, you can actually move to amend after this amendment is voted on too.

Judy Mitchell:  A No vote, if the amendment is defeated, means we return to the original motion where the language does require us to hire a lawyer.

Mera Rose:  See my response to Sarah

Betsy R. Marks:  If by some chance we defeat this amendment, it's possible we will obligate the ICG to HIRE a lawyer.

This is an amendment to the original motion. If we don't change the language of the original motion, and that motion passes, we're required to hire.

Are you sure you want to risk what could easily become an expense of tens of thousands of dollars?

Good lawyers in Maryland are $400/hour or more. That seems like playing roulette with the ICG's finances. It took us years to build the balance we have now. Seems like a shame to see it all spent in one place, for lawyers' fees.

But if we'd rather spend our money on the legal profession instead of supporting our art and artists, I guess that's what we'll have to do.

I intend to vote yes on the amendment, on the off chance there aren't enough votes to defeat the motion as a whole.

Regards,

Betsy R. Marks 
Silicon Web

--
Betsy R. Marks
www.hawkeswood.com

Mera Rose:  If this language fails, then it defaults to 1A, if that language fails, then it defaults to 1.

Mera Rose:  And honestly, I don’t see why there is an insistence that we hire an attorney to do it.  I mean, there’s tons of draft templates out there that are cheap or free that we could create a committee to finalize, and then send them to Paddy Morton with Maryland Nonprofits to make sure that we’re 100% compliant.  A lot cheaper, a lot faster, and gets the whole thing done.

I mean, let’s just be realistic here.  Pushing out the dates into infinity to “investigate” it just looks like avoidance behavior, and saying that spending $100 on Maryland Nonprofits and either using their templates or resources and attorney or $100 for legal zoom or some other template service (assuming that any of the legal professionals here don’t have templates already that we could use) is going to bankrupt the ICG is obviously not the case.  Hiring a Maryland attorney at an hourly rate would be a horrible misuse of funds with these two options available, IMHO.

And - while I understand that several of you may not think that this is important, our members don’t agree.  Preliminary graphs from the survey below (these may change as the survey isn’t closed yet, but it gives an idea of the trend right now. And the last one is just to remind everyone on all sides of this issue that tone is important.)

(Graphs from survey available in Slack #boardofdirectors channel, can not be uploaded to Yahoo.)

Jacalyn Boggs:  Well the hiring a lawyer was so we could Get It Done instead of moving at the glacial speed we are known for around here. It has been too long without these necessary documents and after the problems in the last three months, it is clear that we need these documents before we end up in some serious hot water. 

Also, an outside professional entity would hopefully mean that we can not only be in compliance, but people would not be able to argue that they didn’t write the thing or whatever. Ego has gotten in the way too much lately.

Jacalyn Boggs:  Fear tactics when 1. This is something so simple and fast I literally had a lawyer do it for me already at no cost so no, it won’t bankrupt us and 2. We have the simple option of Maryland Nonprofits for a whopping $100? 

This is a bit ridiculous. I’m literally just waiting for us to be signed on with them at this point so I can contact them about several things. Including this specific motion. 

Have y’all a nice day.

Judy Mitchell:  Exactly, Mera, we don't need to hire a lawyer. Kevin pointed that out a while ago. But the original motion is worded to obligate the icg to do just that. That's why i was trying to amend it to say investigate TO hire instead of AND hire, but you two wouldn't listen. This c whike thing should have been scrapped when you found the nonprofit group, but you didn't. Now we have to vote, and if we end up with the original then we HAVE to hire someone.

Mera Rose:  Um, I wasn’t involved in Jacalyn’s motion.  I’ve been trying to put out there that there is a better way to do this without having to go through all of this.  I was a paralegal and I know what the hourly rates are.  It’s a gross misuse of funds.  I agree that the policies need to be made, but I don’t agree with “either side” on the approach at the moment.  And I don’t control withdrawing a motion - I can’t.  The motion to withdraw has to come from the original mover.  I’ve been trying to show this through multiple emails.  Please, everyone, stop assigning motives to each other.  It doesn’t help anything get done.


On Dec 1, 2019, at 2:50 PM, 'Betsy R. Marks' aramintamd@gmail.com [ICG-D] <ICG-D@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

If by some chance we defeat this amendment, it's possible we will obligate the ICG to HIRE a lawyer.

This is an amendment to the original motion. If we don't change the language of the original motion, and that motion passes, we're required to hire.

Are you sure you want to risk what could easily become an expense of tens of thousands of dollars?

Good lawyers in Maryland are $400/hour or more. That seems like playing roulette with the ICG's finances. It took us years to build the balance we have now. Seems like a shame to see it all spent in one place, for lawyers' fees.

But if we'd rather spend our money on the legal profession instead of supporting our art and artists, I guess that's what we'll have to do.

I intend to vote yes on the amendment, on the off chance there aren't enough votes to defeat the motion as a whole.

Regards,

Betsy R. Marks 
Silicon Web

--
Betsy R. Marks
www.hawkeswood.com

On Sun, Dec 1, 2019, 2:23 PM Shimmer Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-D] <ICG-D@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Or, a no vote could mean that we want to simply vote down the proposal entirely in favor of using Maryland Nonprofits services for $100/year and ensure that we’re using a nonprofit attorney in the state of Maryland for the lowest cost. (That’s why I voted no, lol.)

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux

On Dec 1, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Jeanine Swick icg-treasurer@costume.org [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

Speaking as the ICG Treasurer here hoping to make a clearer understanding about the potential financial impact the voting on Motion 11-06-2019-1A1 could have.A YES vote means we MUST RESEARCH the costs of hiring a lawyer to write policies we could probably get for free and decide if we want to spend the money. A NO vote means we MUST HIRE a lawyer to write policies we could probably get for free regardless of cost or whether it could bankrupt the corporation.

Jeanine Swick, Treasurer
International Costumers' Guild, Inc
icg-treasurer@costume.org



Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14797 From: Patrick J OConnor Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!
Pat O'Connor,  CCG, Checking in...
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14798 From: Shimmer Shade Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Communications management
There is a new channel in Slack #open-discussion-communications. The purpose of the channel is specifically to discuss how to manage communications at this time. BoD and members are invited and encouraged to participate. This is not a formal committee and is only to promote the exchanging of ideas. Civil discourse only.

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14799 From: Pierre and Sandy Pettinger Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!

Pierre E. Pettinger, Jr.

Parliamentarian and Archivist

On 12/1/2019 4:21 AM, ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 


All board members are to check in within the first week of the month. Please state your name, chapter and position. Please always sign your name on all posts.

Membership reports are due to the Treasurer at icg-treasurer@costume.org by the 7th of the month.

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Those who fail to learn history
Are doomed to repeat it. 
Those who fail to learn history correctly --
Why, they are simple doomed.

Achem Dro'hm "The Illusion of Historical Fact." 
-- CY 4971
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14800 From: Jeanine Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: Communications management
Not being snarky here. But please will people keep it only to discussing communications, If it is not related to that subject put it in #random or the appropriate channel.

Jeanine

On 12/1/2019 5:10 PM, Shimmer Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] wrote:
 

There is a new channel in Slack #open-discussion-communications. The purpose of the channel is specifically to discuss how to manage communications at this time. BoD and members are invited and encouraged to participate. This is not a formal committee and is only to promote the exchanging of ideas. Civil discourse only.

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux


Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14801 From: Sheryl Nance-Durst Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!
Here.

Sheryl Nance-Durst
Kansas City Costumers’ Guild

On Dec 1, 2019, at 4:21 AM, ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 


All board members are to check in within the first week of the month. Please state your name, chapter and position. Please always sign your name on all posts.

Membership reports are due to the Treasurer at icg-treasurer@costume.org by the 7th of the month.

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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14802 From: Byron Connell Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: 2020 Budget
I ask that the Recording Secretary tell us what the minutes of the Board meeting say we did.

Byron

 
On Nov 30, 2019, at 7:59 PM, ECM Mami ecmami@hotmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Have we *EVER* done anything that isn't a bit wonky?


From: ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Judy Mitchell judymitch@oldwaylane.net [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 7:22 PM
To: ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] 2020 Budget
 
 

Byron, I *think* (and I could be wrong here), but what we did at CC37 
was ratify the 2019 provisional budget as official. As I recall, we tend 
to be offset a bit, so at the end of the year we provisionally vote on 
the budget for the following year because we have to have some sort of 
operating funds, but it isn't officially accepted until the annual 
meeting. It's a little wonky, but it's what we've been doing.
-Judy Mitchell, Northern Lights

On 11/29/2019 6:55 PM, Byron Connell byronpconnell@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] 
wrote:
> 
> 
> I thought we adopted the 2020 budget at the BoD meeting at CC 37.
> 
> Byron
>



Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14803 From: Byron Connell Date: 12/1/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!
Byron Connell, Prez. NJ-NY Costumers Guild; Administrator, Marty Gear Fund; and Director, HELPS, checking in, and hoping Santa brings me something better than Slack!

Byron


On Dec 1, 2019, at 10:19 AM, randwhit@aol.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Leftovers today. Jury duty tomorrow.


Randall Whitlock
Southwest Costumers Guild

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On Sunday, December 1, 2019, ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 


All board members are to check in within the first week of the month. Please state your name, chapter and position. Please always sign your name on all posts.

Membership reports are due to the Treasurer at icg-treasurer@costume.org by the 7th of the month.

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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14804 From: 57bebdc5a1eb9ba0b0bcaa20009c38c5 Date: 12/2/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!

Karen Heim

 


On 2019-12-01 04:21, ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 


All board members are to check in within the first week of the month. Please state your name, chapter and position. Please always sign your name on all posts.

Membership reports are due to the Treasurer at icg-treasurer@costume.org by the 7th of the month.

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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 14805 From: Lisa Ashton Date: 12/2/2019
Subject: Re: File - Time to check in!
Miss Lizzy checking in for the end of 2019.



On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 8:59 AM Shimmer Shade mera.babineaux@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Please remember to also check in on Slack.


Checking in.

Cordially,
Mera Babineaux, Acting President

On Dec 1, 2019, at 7:52 AM, 'Betsy R. Marks' aramintamd@gmail.com [ICG-BOD] <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  

Betsy R. Marks 
President, Silicon Web
Rep, ICG BOD

--
Betsy R. Marks
www.hawkeswood.com

On Sun, Dec 1, 2019, 5:21 AM <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 


All board members are to check in within the first week of the month. Please state your name, chapter and position. Please always sign your name on all posts.

Membership reports are due to the Treasurer at icg-treasurer@costume...org by the 7th of the month.

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