Attachments :

OK. I'll have some time since I'm due to start jury duty Monday, and will
have plenty of sitting time.

Jess

----- Original Message -----
From: "Byron Connell" <bconnell@MAIL.NYSED.GOV>
To: <ICG-BOD@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] ICG Mission Statement


> Jess --
>
> Thanks.
>
> Can you have something to post by early next month? If you can,
> we could focus on it next, once we've disposed of the two
> motions on the floor.
>
> Byron
>
>
> >>> msjess@earthlink.net 11/09/00 09:33PM >>>
> As Corresponding Secretary, I feel that this comes under my purview. I'll
> give it a whack - when do you want it?
>
> Jess
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Byron Connell" <bconnell@MAIL.NYSED.GOV>
> To: <ICG-BOD@egroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 10:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] ICG Mission Statement
>
>
> > OK. Who wants to take a whack at statements of the mission of
> > the ICG, our vision for the Corporation, and our overall goals?
> >
> > Byron
> >
> >
> > >>> icg@costume.org 11/06/00 10:17PM >>>
> > Then may I suggest to the board that in addition to the Financial and CQ
> > issues, that a Mission Statement, Core Goals or whichever buzz word
> > applies, needs to be developed.
> >
> > It seems to this observer that the many questions from the Local
> > Chapters and individual members: "What does the ICG do?, "What does
> > being a member get me?", "...my chapter?", but they are all the same
> > basic question.
> >
> > "What is the ICG?"
> >
> > As part and parcel of asking for higher dues, higher subscription prices
> > for CQ, adding the Annual as subscription item, banging away for
> > material for the publications, the ICG needs to be able to justify why
> > it's asking for the $$ or the submissions.
> >
> > Currently there is a slate of officers, staff and BOD with the drive and
> > passion to make anything work, but what I think we are missing to get
> > the ICG working is a vision to be a goal to work to.
> >
> > All I ask for is a vision, not the details, just the lofty goal.
> >
> > Thanks and sorry for taking up so much of your time.
> >
> > JohnO
> >
> > Byron Connell wrote:
> > >
> > > Not to my knowledge.
> > >
> > > Byron
> > >
> > > >>> icg@costume.org 11/02/00 10:47PM >>>
> > > I've just checked the Standing Rules, Bylaws and 3c501 documents.
> > >
> > > I don't have a copy of the Maryland incorporation and the statement on
> > > the home page is taken from Whole Costumers Catalogue (with permission
> > > of Karen Dick (publisher) and Cat Devereaux (author of the ICG
> > > section)).
> > >
> > > Does the ICG have a "official" mission statement?
> > >
> > > JohnO
>
>
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Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:

>
> I attempted to access this for our meeting, but you neglected to
> mention
> there's a password involved. What do I need to do here?

Bruce,

Thanks to the donations, there's over $2,000 in the bank.

I admit my current financial report of 11-11 on the site is in error
because I have a bizarre math error next to the Oct bank charge and I
was unable to make my planned deposit yesterday (forgot it was my own
or Her Spazness' birthday, therefore a federal holiday). I have two
more checks in addition to those from the Pup meeting yesterday so
I'll be back to the bank sometime later this week and update the
Board
correctly. I think we have approx $2,650 if I get no more checks in
the mail.

On using egroups, there would probably be an intro email from when
John signed everyone up with a temp password. When you use it, it'll
prompt for a pw change.

I found it useful to use the my egroups tab on the web site, and
manually change from indiv emails, daily digests, or no mail settings.

Sharon

--- In ICG-BOD@egroups.com, "Bruce & Nora Mai" <casamai@p...> wrote:
> Sharon:
>
> Where does the Guild stand, financially, at this point? How far
are
it
> still in the hole, and what does it need for a temporary cushion?
>
> Bruce

Quick question - I'm not sure, should the ICG be paying tax?

I know we do not collect it from subscribers so it would not be a
resale that would exempt us, but maybe the non-profit status would
apply. Don't know that one.

Sharon

--- In ICG-BOD@egroups.com, "cdmami" <cdmami@h...> wrote in part:

> REPLY
> did some checking with printer and the post office using the second

quarter

> as a test weight the cost of FIRST CLASS Mail was 1.21 each the

printing for

> the same size was 2.50 plus Tax each. per 100 issues less if the

amount

> increased and as high as 3.10 for a smaller size or run
> $18.00 dollars would allow for first class mail and the printing

there are

> other ways to cut cost if needed smaller runs can be printed in

house if

> subs were to drop.

There are already five, perhaps six, NJ/NY chapter members holding
Board positions, voting and non-voting. No alternate or back-up
would
be needed to keep the chapter informed.

I currently occupy two Board positions, both the ICG Treasurer and as
the voting member of the Board representing the NJ/NY chapter as
their
benevolent dictator. Rather than casting a vote with twice the
weight
of others, for the time being, I would like to transfer my NJ/NY vote
to a non-voting Pup already on the Board, Carl Mami.


Sharon Trembley

Despite an individual claiming the ICG has no future, another member
suggested that the ICG shrinks and swells. The ICG may be at a low at
the moment, but it will be reborn from its own ashes like the Phoenix.
We then intoned our secret chapter motto.

Motion #2 to raise annual ICG dues to $4 per year passed within the
Pups. We understand the need to cover the ICG's current operating
expenses, and I rec'd further direction if the motion is defeated by
the vote of the rest of the BOD.

Carl, being a Pup, explained the CQ financials and why $18 was needed
instead of the motion for $15.

The Pups approved to raise the US annual subscriber rate to make the
Costumer Quarterly self-sufficient.

Considering no lower cost alternative has been volunteered for
printing over the past month, the best price in Carl's geo area
remains a firm price to calculate the sub rate.

The Sick Pups would be a chapter affected by the drop shipment method
so either way the additional shipping costs would be collected from
the Pup subscribers. See no need to add further delivery delay by
having Pup HQ receive then remail.

To make the CQ self-sufficient, I move that Motion #1 be amended to
increase the CQ subscription price for U.S. members to $18.00.

Carl needs the minimum 4,000 pages for the magic price from the
printer. Simply, 40 pages times 100 issues. The $18 per subscriber
rate does not cover the chapter copies or whatever excess is needed to
reach the 100 copies of the issue. In the past, chapter copies were a
small percentage of the entire mailing. This is no longer the case.
The ICG foots the bill for chapter copies of the CQ as it did for the
inaugral issue of the Annual.

If the Costumer Quarterly is to be self-sufficient, as my constituency
wishes, the ICG should only cover the cost of ensuring a copy of both
the Costumer Quarterly and the Annual for the ICG Archives.

New Motion #3 or perhaps #4 -
I move that each US chapter shall subscribe to the Costumer Quarterly
and every chapter, whether US or non-US, purchase a copy of the ICG
Annual, unless there is a 100% household subscription within the
chapter, beginning Jan. 6th, 2001. These copies will be sent to the
main chapter addresses, and it is the local chapter's responsibility
to share the publication among members as soon as convenient.
Displaying it at the next local chapter meeting would be acceptable.

I expect this would be done yearly during the big January update to
the ICG Treasurer.

Sharon Trembley
Her Spazness

The self-sufficient issue was decided, but the comments regarding the
CQ abounded.

* The publication is practically current, but the CQ's historic
performance still remains a concern to some.

* Format variety during the year, three little issues then one big one
to try to save on postage and to cover the lack of content problem.
Opposing view was by the name Quarterly, subscribers would expect four
similar publications a year.

* Want costume how-to's to be a larger percent of page count. The
suggester was challenged to submit an article.

* Other chapters choose not to share information with the rest of the
ICG through the CQ. Is news from around the Guild relevant? A
newsletter, already suggested on the ICG-D list, was proposed to get
guild news out sooner, but no news is still no news. Introduction of
newsletter would increase ICG expenses, need volunteers, and change CQ
purpose.

The Sick Pups are experiencing a constitutional crisis. We wish to
challenge the questionable results of the last annual SLUTS'
officers'
election attributable to too many holes.

I move for a manual recount of the 2000 SLUT election ballots,
including absentee, with results determined by December 8th, 2000 so
the Sick Pups can consider whether or not to challange it in court.
The services of Dewey, Cheatum and Howe have already been retained.

Sharon

Okay. So I'm confused. At this point, is the ICG sound again?

----- Original Message -----
From: <callisto@netlabs.net>
To: <ICG-BOD@egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 10:32 AM
Subject: [ICG-BOD] Re: Treasurer' s report


> Bruce,
>
> Thanks to the donations, there's over $2,000 in the bank.
>
> I admit my current financial report of 11-11 on the site is in error
> because I have a bizarre math error next to the Oct bank charge and I
> was unable to make my planned deposit yesterday (forgot it was my own
> or Her Spazness' birthday, therefore a federal holiday). I have two
> more checks in addition to those from the Pup meeting yesterday so
> I'll be back to the bank sometime later this week and update the
> Board
> correctly. I think we have approx $2,650 if I get no more checks in
> the mail.
>
> On using egroups, there would probably be an intro email from when
> John signed everyone up with a temp password. When you use it, it'll
> prompt for a pw change.
>
> I found it useful to use the my egroups tab on the web site, and
> manually change from indiv emails, daily digests, or no mail settings.
>
> Sharon
>
>
> --- In ICG-BOD@egroups.com, "Bruce & Nora Mai" <casamai@p...> wrote:
> > Sharon:
> >
> > Where does the Guild stand, financially, at this point? How far
> are
> it
> > still in the hole, and what does it need for a temporary cushion?
> >
> > Bruce
>
>
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Eh? >:\

Anyway, could I have the relevant points that need to be discussed by our
group at our next meeting. I need something I can print out and go off of.
I know we've discussed a lot of things here. The ICG solvency was one
issue, but it almost sounds like that point is moot. But I need that
clarification, since the last my group knew, it was still up in the air. A
summary, please.

----- Original Message -----
From: <callisto@netlabs.net>
To: <ICG-BOD@egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 11:41 AM
Subject: [ICG-BOD] Finally new business


> The Sick Pups are experiencing a constitutional crisis. We wish to
> challenge the questionable results of the last annual SLUTS'
> officers'
> election attributable to too many holes.
>
> I move for a manual recount of the 2000 SLUT election ballots,
> including absentee, with results determined by December 8th, 2000 so
> the Sick Pups can consider whether or not to challange it in court.
> The services of Dewey, Cheatum and Howe have already been retained.
>
> Sharon
>
>
>
>
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There is money in the bank. That's good, but I'm misunderstanding the
current expenditure and reallocation request before the Board
regarding the CQ's 3rd quarter 2000. I was not at Worldcon, where I
was told the expenditure was approved for printing the 1999 issue.
The final approved expenditures came to roughly $3,000 for printing,
$145 for supplies and $600 for mailing less the remaining $100 of ad
money paid to Carl directly.

I understand these are CQ issues owed to subscribers and to keep to CQ
on schedule, there's the incentive to approve the expenditure. I'm
also a subscriber so I have an interest in getting my CQ.

What's the estimated cost? Carl did not need to spend (part of or?)
the whole $500 for mailing the 1999 issue and still retains $150 from
ads so he may have $650 in hand. Yesterday I was told another $100
advance was needed. So the $750's for everything, or is there still
the first class mailing costs - $750 to be added to CQ printing budget
and approx. $125 to the CQ mailing budget, based on 100 copies at
$1.21 each plus a little extra for Australia, Canada and UK?

Wouldn't the Board need to know the approximate amount to approve the
increase to the printing and mailing line items on the budget? It
should also be shown the $500 is being reallocated from its original
purpose if it's being diverted from mailing to printing. What's the
procedure to approve or reallocate? Did the approval at Worldcon
follow any procedure or was it a blanket approval to make it so?

This is the related standing rule:

25. The ICG Budget

D. The Treasurer shall report the Corporation's revenues and
expenditures to the Committee and the Board at least quarterly. To
meet arising needs, the Board may increase or decrease budgeted
expenditures as needed during the course of each year. To meet arising
needs, the President may, without the Board's approval, increase or
decrease budgeted expenditures each year by an amount not to exceed
fifteen (15) percent of the budgeted amount and shall promptly report
such changes to the Board and the committee. [Adopted 02/15/99]


The originally budgeted amounts were: $2480 printing, $200 mailing, $0
other.

The amounts Carl has collected for ads in the CQ would be CQ revenue,
and the BOD should quickly approve them to be applied to CQ expenses.
$100 was paid to the ICG, and I believe $300 was paid directly to
Carl, but with $200 of the $300 already spent in the 3rd quarter, it
wouldn't leave $150 remaining in the 4th quarter.

The amounts that have been spent were: $4513.92 printing, $1107.76
mailing, $145 other.

While expeditious, Carl accepting money directly on behalf of the ICG
for the archives and CQ is causing a problem for me as Treasurer. I
do not see it come in, and no receipt is submitted for it being spent.
It's an audit exposure.

Sharon Trembley

--- In ICG-BOD@egroups.com, "Bruce & Nora Mai" <casamai@p...> wrote:
> Okay. So I'm confused. At this point, is the ICG sound again?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <callisto@n...>
> To: <ICG-BOD@egroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 10:32 AM
> Subject: [ICG-BOD] Re: Treasurer' s report
>
>
> > Bruce,
> >
> > Thanks to the donations, ... I think we have approx $2,650 ...

> > Sharon
> >

There may be money in the bank, but are all financial problems resolved for
the forseeable future?

(Still wiating on the summary of issues before the Board)

----- Original Message -----
From: <callisto@netlabs.net>
To: <ICG-BOD@egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 5:52 PM
Subject: [ICG-BOD] Re: Treasurer' s report


> There is money in the bank

Okay. Here we go again.

I need to know who was sent CQs. Apparently, some of our members got them,
and others have not. Is there still some policy to send issues owed to
people? As far as I knew, none of our members were owed CQs anymore (I
could be wrong), yet here they are.

There are some serious discrepancies here, and it appears to be the same old
problem again of some getting them and others are not.

Sharon is the keeping of all of the lists. We mailed to everyone that she
gave to us. She intern received the list from each of the chapters. Who
did you send in?

More than that I cannot answer.
Dora



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Bruce and Nora,

If you are referring to the 1999 combo issue, that was sent to all ICG
members with this criteria - US member whose dues were current. It
was approved by the BOD at the 2000 Annual Meeting to send the next CQ
issue to all members to increase interest in the publication.

The regular subscribers should have gotten the two 2000 issues
already. The only SLUT subsciber is Pierre P.

I'm in NJ and have not gotten mine in the mail from Philadelphia yet
so there should still be some in the mail. I can send you a list of
the St. Louis chapter who should anticipate one of the 1999 issues.
The mail delay should be alleviated by Carl's proposal to use first
class mail.

Sharon

(We do have future liability for the CQ, I have not calculated it
since CC. Will do this week.)

--- In ICG-BOD@egroups.com, "Bruce & Nora Mai" <casamai@p...> wrote:
> Okay. Here we go again.
>
> I need to know who was sent CQs. Apparently, some of our members
got them,
> and others have not. Is there still some policy to send issues owed
to
> people? As far as I knew, none of our members were owed CQs anymore
(I
> could be wrong), yet here they are.
>
> There are some serious discrepancies here, and it appears to be the
same old
> problem again of some getting them and others are not.

Hi Folks,

Dina Flockhart, Northern Lights Figurehead reporting meeting results:

Northern Lights meeting and email comments overwhelmingly voted to
support/approve both motions - the $4 membership and the $18 subscription
rate for the CQ. Northern Lights also overwhelmingly voted to support Carl
in his bid for benevolent dictator in maintaining the address list for CQ.
4 members expressed an immediate intention to mail him $18 checks.

We also had some CQ comments similar to what Sharon wrote:

>* Format variety during the year, three little issues then one big one
>to try to save on postage and to cover the lack of content problem.

This was the general view, along with a much supported suggestion of
combining the Annual and the CQ. If both publications hare having
difficulty getting submissions, why divide people's attention and add extra
printer costs!?!?!?
Both publications contained several pages of nothing but chapter addresses
due to lack of submissions - why print that 5 times instead of 4??

>* Want costume how-to's to be a larger percent of page count.

The Vol 12 no 1 1999 issue was a hit - with the articles on organization
and buttons being much discussed. It was felt that this kind of content
was to be encouraged. And getting more advertisement in was also supported
- Carl, would you like a copy of the CC18 advertiser's database?

>* Other chapters choose not to share information with the rest of the
>ICG through the CQ. Is news from around the Guild relevant?

News from around the Guild was considered a nice feature, some about
chapter events to inspire other chapters, as well little announcements like
members getting awards at conventions, or getting a reproduction costume
accepted by a museum. If chapters have regular meeting times and places,
that should be listed under the chapter listing. The feeling was
definitely that we do not need to start another publication.

Not sharing information was considered an oversight, one that we will
hopefully rememdy in the future. With that in mind, Northern Lights will
call for an early election of officers to hopefully promote more efficient
operation.

Dina,

The current motion that was secinded was $15. I moved yesterday to
raise it to the $18. Are you officially seconding that?

Sharon

--- In ICG-BOD@egroups.com, Dina Flockhart <cloak@z...> wrote in part:

> Hi Folks,
>
> Dina Flockhart, Northern Lights Figurehead reporting meeting

results:

>
> Northern Lights meeting and email comments overwhelmingly voted to
> support/approve both motions - the $4 membership and the $18

subscription

> rate for the CQ.

> Northern Lights meeting and email comments overwhelmingly voted to
> support/approve both motions - the $4 membership and the $18
> subscription
> rate for the CQ. Northern Lights also overwhelmingly voted
> to support Carl
> in his bid for benevolent dictator in maintaining the address
> list for CQ.
> 4 members expressed an immediate intention to mail him $18 checks.

This would be premature. :-) The motion on the table is to raise the rate to
$15.00, effective January 6th, 2001. Sharon has moved that the motion be
amended to $18.00, but I'd like to hear from the CQ editor directly on why
he feels that $18.00 is more appropriate than $15.00 before I would accept
that as a friendly amendment. Without that, we'll have to second, discuss,
and vote on the amendment before we can vote on the original motion. (Note:
I should see Carl this weekend...)

> We also had some CQ comments similar to what Sharon wrote:
> >* Format variety during the year, three little issues then
> one big one
> >to try to save on postage and to cover the lack of content problem.
>
> This was the general view, along with a much supported suggestion of
> combining the Annual and the CQ. If both publications hare having
> difficulty getting submissions, why divide people's attention
> and add extra
> printer costs!?!?!?
> Both publications contained several pages of nothing but
> chapter addresses
> due to lack of submissions - why print that 5 times instead of 4??

I personally think we need two publications. We need one that's basically a
scholarly journal of sorts. That would be the Costumer's Quarterly. Then we
also need one that's a "News from the Guild" type of publication. The Annual
doesn't really serve either need, in it's present form. The second
publication could be a quarterly 8 page (or less) newsletter. It could even
be (it *should* be!) a core benefit of membership, though that would
probably require raising dues.

> >* Want costume how-to's to be a larger percent of page count.
> The Vol 12 no 1 1999 issue was a hit - with the articles on
> organization
> and buttons being much discussed. It was felt that this kind
> of content
> was to be encouraged.

Umm, the main thing right now is to get people to *write* those articles, if
I understand correctly.

> And getting more advertisement in was
> also supported
> - Carl, would you like a copy of the CC18 advertiser's database?

I'm in favor of packing the CQ with relevant ads. :-) And as we get the
content up where it belongs, and the subscription rate back to healthy
levels, we should charge a reasonable rate, too.

Ken Warren

You bet!

At 03:27 PM 11/13/00 -0000, you wrote:

>Dina,
>
>The current motion that was secinded was $15. I moved yesterday to
>raise it to the $18. Are you officially seconding that?
>
>Sharon
>
>--- In ICG-BOD@egroups.com, Dina Flockhart <cloak@z...> wrote in part:
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Dina Flockhart, Northern Lights Figurehead reporting meeting
>results:
>>
>> Northern Lights meeting and email comments overwhelmingly voted to
>> support/approve both motions - the $4 membership and the $18
>subscription
>> rate for the CQ.
>
>
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At 10:30 AM 11/13/00 -0500, Ken wrote:

>> Northern Lights meeting and email comments overwhelmingly voted to
>> support/approve both motions - the $4 membership and the $18
>> subscription
>> rate for the CQ. Northern Lights also overwhelmingly voted
>> to support Carl
>> in his bid for benevolent dictator in maintaining the address
>> list for CQ.
>> 4 members expressed an immediate intention to mail him $18 checks.
>
>This would be premature. :-) The motion on the table is to raise the rate to
>$15.00, effective January 6th, 2001. Sharon has moved that the motion be
>amended to $18.00, but I'd like to hear from the CQ editor directly on why
>he feels that $18.00 is more appropriate than $15.00 before I would accept
>that as a friendly amendment. Without that, we'll have to second, discuss,
>and vote on the amendment before we can vote on the original motion. (Note:
>I should see Carl this weekend...)
>

We're just being efficient. We're so behind on everything else....
I can withdraw that second from the previous email if it's to be an
amendment instead. Please note that not one of the Northern Lights
suggested sending in an $8 check before the Jan 6th deadline....

>> And getting more advertisement in was also supported
>> - Carl, would you like a copy of the CC18 advertiser's database?
>
>I'm in favor of packing the CQ with relevant ads. :-) And as we get the
>content up where it belongs, and the subscription rate back to healthy
>levels, we should charge a reasonable rate, too.

The relevant ads become more appreciated when they contain coupons or
special offers for subscribers. I was able to get a couple of those for
CC18 and those advertisers are still friendly.....

Dina

That's two days from the time it was dropped at the Post Office. Obviously, there's a wormhole directly connecting the Philadelphia and St. Louis post offices!

Byron

>>> casamai@primary.net 11/11/00 12:55PM >>>

We received ours yesterday. We have indications other members did, also.

Bruce



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Dina,

How about instead of efficient, generous? I'd prefer to record the
overpayment portion as a voluntary donation until (or if) the US sub
rate officially is raised.

ie $15 rec'd Dec 1st = $8 sub + $7 donation

Sharon



--- In ICG-BOD@egroups.com, Dina Flockhart <cloak@z...> wrote in part:

>
> We're just being efficient. We're so behind on everything else....
> I can withdraw that second from the previous email if it's to be an
> amendment instead. Please note that not one of the Northern Lights
> suggested sending in an $8 check before the Jan 6th deadline....
>
>
> Dina

The special 1999 issue was mailed to <all> ICG members in good
standing, <not> just to subscribers. The budget this Board
adopted in May included $800+ from the ICG's general revenues
specifically for this purpose. The idea was to stimulate interest in
the Quarterly.

Unfortunately, the cost of the issue was much greater than the
amount budgeted. Personally, I still believe that this was a
worthwhile expenditure. What I did not know at Worldcon was
how little we actually had collected in dues. I was assuming we
were more or less on target as budgeted, not <way> below, as in
fact we were.

If you have any member who (1) is an ICG member in good
standing and (2) did <not> receive a copy, either we do not have
the correct current address -- bad addresses are a significant
problem across the Corporation -- or the issue has not yet been
delivered. Bruce, for example received his copy on in St. Louis
11/10. Byron, on 11/13, has not yet received his in Albany. Yet,
both were mailed in Philadelphia on 11/8. I know the ICG has my
cporrect mailing address.

<Please> allow time for thre snail to delivere the stuff! We can't
control bulk mail. (That's one reason we're looking at mailing the
few U.S. subscriptions left as First Class Mail.)

Byron

>>> casamai@primary.net 11/12/00 10:47PM >>>

Okay. Here we go again.

I need to know who was sent CQs. Apparently, some of our members got them,
and others have not. Is there still some policy to send issues owed to
people? As far as I knew, none of our members were owed CQs anymore (I
could be wrong), yet here they are.

There are some serious discrepancies here, and it appears to be the same old
problem again of some getting them and others are not.

No. They are not.

Byron

>>> casamai@primary.net 11/12/00 10:43PM >>>

There may be money in the bank, but are all financial problems resolved for
the forseeable future?

(Still wiating on the summary of issues before the Board)

----- Original Message -----
From: <callisto@netlabs.net>
To: <ICG-BOD@egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 5:52 PM
Subject: [ICG-BOD] Re: Treasurer' s report


> There is money in the bank



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The tone of the E-mail copied below pisses me off and I want an explanation
especially seeing my comments were in response to a posting that read
precisely as I responded to it.

Further, on the submission to the CQ issue, if you do not have CC20
information, ask for it. I have directed that information be sent CQ-wards,
if this has not been done, tell me and I will roll the head of anyone who
has screwed up (no, advertising never said that I am nice or patient with
incompetents).

As to other submissions to CQ, as the local guild officer who has had to
field questions from local members regarding whether their stuff was
received by the CQ, whether it was used by CQ, and indeed whether CQ will
ever reach them; and as the local officer who has been pumping locals to
submit to the thing, I take complete offence at your final comments.

AND NEVER ACCUSE ME OF POINTING FINGERS.

-C.

----------

> From: Dora Buck <dfbuck@hotmail.com>
> To: ICG-BOD@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] CQ
> Date: 07 November 2000 15:27
>
>
> Chris
> In reply to your remark the CQ was not and never will be a reprint of
> newsletter articles.
> It is as I have said it is the lifeline between chapters so no
> person(member) will be left out of the loop of news.
> It function is to inform everyone what is happening through the guild to
> inform the UK and NY what you are doing down under. To report the
> presidents message to the members at large and to report the news of the

ICG

> to everyone.
> this idea has somehow been lost on the board of directors as well as the
> rank and file.
> the reason for this misdirection has been the board and others who have

made

> policy with out thinking(knowing) what the CQ stood for.
> It's second job is to instruct as best it can on the items of interest to

> all guild members with how to and news of up coming major events as well

as

> report on events that some may be unable to attend.
> It has not been able to do this as the staff before me it was one person

and

> no help for the primary mission let alone the secondary mission. The
> records submitted by the chapters are in poor condition at best and more
> likely a disaster with no address correction and withholding of even the
> simple update.
> This has been the mission of the CQ and to date it has been done without

the

> full support of the guild but with the finger pointing of people not

willing

> to look carefully into the problems.
> Even CC-20 your event has not filed any story of events planned or hard

news

> of the upcoming event other than the date.
> Maybe you should look into the problem and explain why it is necessary to

> ask third parties for hard news and information of this important event.
> If you are not part of the solution you are the problem
> Thank you
> Carl Mami
>
>
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I believe we are not subject to Federal or state income tax. We would also
be eligible for sales tax exemptions if the purchase is for resale.

Pierre

At 04:36 PM 11/12/00 +0000, you wrote:

>Quick question - I'm not sure, should the ICG be paying tax?
>
>I know we do not collect it from subscribers so it would not be a
>resale that would exempt us, but maybe the non-profit status would
>apply. Don't know that one.
>
>Sharon
>
>--- In ICG-BOD@egroups.com, "cdmami" <cdmami@h...> wrote in part:
> > REPLY
> > did some checking with printer and the post office using the second
>quarter
> > as a test weight the cost of FIRST CLASS Mail was 1.21 each the
>printing for
> > the same size was 2.50 plus Tax each. per 100 issues less if the
>amount
> > increased and as high as 3.10 for a smaller size or run
> > $18.00 dollars would allow for first class mail and the printing
>there are
> > other ways to cut cost if needed smaller runs can be printed in
>house if
> > subs were to drop.
>
>
>
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REPLY
have asked every month since the first of the year
as for it being personal don't have time for personal in this area you are
the same as everyone else.
If you took my remarks as personal I will apologize it was not meant that
way.
the last item I saw from CC-20 was a personal copy of PR2 I sent e-mails to
all CC's asking them for copy and ads to be placed free in the 1999 issue
asit was to be free and go to everyone. only a few replied and the rest
never answered. You were in the never answered group.
I also asked for reprint permission still no word.
galleys of the 1999 issue and the first two quarters of 200 were air mailed
last wed some for the second time.
I only wish you were the only one not submitting anything then I would have
the year wrapped up and start on next year.
but you are not you are one of many so if I seem upset you are right you as
one person should not be the only one getting kicked.
with all that butt out there you must shared the kick with maybe 10 or more
chapters and people with events of interest.
if you still fell offended my second will calll on you at cc-19 and the
weapons of choice will be feathers at three paces.
Carl
PS I never said you were nice or patient I would never say that in a public
forum. As I am sure you would be upset.

----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher Ballis <stilskin@netspace.net.au>
To: <ICG-BOD@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 12:44 AM
Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] CQ


> The tone of the E-mail copied below pisses me off and I want an
explanation
> especially seeing my comments were in response to a posting that read
> precisely as I responded to it.
>
> Further, on the submission to the CQ issue, if you do not have CC20
> information, ask for it. I have directed that information be sent
CQ-wards,
> if this has not been done, tell me and I will roll the head of anyone who
> has screwed up (no, advertising never said that I am nice or patient with
> incompetents).
>
> As to other submissions to CQ, as the local guild officer who has had to
> field questions from local members regarding whether their stuff was
> received by the CQ, whether it was used by CQ, and indeed whether CQ will
> ever reach them; and as the local officer who has been pumping locals to
> submit to the thing, I take complete offence at your final comments.
>
> AND NEVER ACCUSE ME OF POINTING FINGERS.
>
> -C.
>
> ----------
> > From: Dora Buck <dfbuck@hotmail.com>
> > To: ICG-BOD@egroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] CQ
> > Date: 07 November 2000 15:27
> >
> >
> > Chris
> > In reply to your remark the CQ was not and never will be a reprint of
> > newsletter articles.
> > It is as I have said it is the lifeline between chapters so no
> > person(member) will be left out of the loop of news.
> > It function is to inform everyone what is happening through the guild to
> > inform the UK and NY what you are doing down under. To report the
> > presidents message to the members at large and to report the news of the
> ICG
> > to everyone.
> > this idea has somehow been lost on the board of directors as well as the
> > rank and file.
> > the reason for this misdirection has been the board and others who have
> made
> > policy with out thinking(knowing) what the CQ stood for.
> > It's second job is to instruct as best it can on the items of interest
to
>
> > all guild members with how to and news of up coming major events as well
> as
> > report on events that some may be unable to attend.
> > It has not been able to do this as the staff before me it was one person
> and
> > no help for the primary mission let alone the secondary mission. The
> > records submitted by the chapters are in poor condition at best and more
> > likely a disaster with no address correction and withholding of even the
> > simple update.
> > This has been the mission of the CQ and to date it has been done without
> the
> > full support of the guild but with the finger pointing of people not
> willing
> > to look carefully into the problems.
> > Even CC-20 your event has not filed any story of events planned or hard
> news
> > of the upcoming event other than the date.
> > Maybe you should look into the problem and explain why it is necessary
to
>
> > ask third parties for hard news and information of this important event.
> > If you are not part of the solution you are the problem
> > Thank you
> > Carl Mami
> >
> >
> >
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In a message dated 11/13/00 10:43:27 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
bconnell@MAIL.NYSED.GOV writes:

> That's two days from the time it was dropped at the Post Office.

Obviously,

> there's a wormhole directly connecting the Philadelphia and St. Louis post
> offices!
>
> Byron

The Arch is actually a stargate.

Randall

The future liabilities -

The easiest to calculate is the CQ subscriptions. Out of the
remaining subscribers, here are their expiration dates:

3rd qtr, 2000 3 - print count 81 plus 18 chap = 99
4th qtr, 2000 35 - 78 96
1st qtr, 2001 3 - 43 61
2nd qtr, 2001 34 - 40 58
3rd qtr, 2001 0 - 6 24
4th qtr, 2001 2 - 6 24

The four remaining subscribers' expirations are: 2 in 2nd qtr 2002, 1
in 4th qtr 2003 and 1 in 2nd qtr 2004.

The ICG currently owes a total of 362 issues through the end of 2001.
A quarter of those owed are being mailed to US chapters at the ICG's
expense to print and mail.

I motioned on Sunday that ICG US local chapters pay for their chapter
subscriptions to help ease the ICG's financial burden. There is only
one chapter with a 100% household sub rate so they may not want an
additional copy for the chapter.

I would also like to get direction to resolve the Australian and UK
subs. Western Canada remits $1 per household per year for master
copies of the CQ to print and distribute. Australia's rep, Chris
Ballis, recalled the same arrangement made with the Australian
chapter. No extra funds have been remitted, however CQ production
was limited. Both chapters should receive the 1999 combo issue and
the first two issues of 2000 which were mailed on 11/08. Once they
are received satisfactorily, would it be fair to at least collect one
year's sub from them to cover 1999 combo and all four issues of
2000? Then they would remit the 2001 sub in their January update for
the four 2001 issues?

Did previous CQ editors ship all the copies to the non-US subscribers?
There's the prior balance from the three non-US chapters for previous
CQs that carried over to my term as ICG Treasurer. I recommended
they be written off as bad debt at the 2000 Annual Meeting. The
amounts were (in US dollars):

Western Canada $ 17.75
Australia 179.05
United Kingdom 320.98

Uh... if I don't want to write it off and they're not paid, can some
sort of arrangement be worked out with local chapters in the US to
pay these off on their fellow costumers' behalf? This could be a
discussion worked out between the chapters involved, and I don't care
who's paying, but my point is - is this debt considered valid by
those chapters? Jana's last email (referred to Sally's term as CQ
editor) to them and my follow-up were not acted upon.

Summary of Motions (or did you want something else?)
Motion #1 $15 US CQ sub with proposed amendment to $18
Motion #2 $ 4 ICG member rate
Motion #3 Re: Annual withdrawn
Motion #4 US Chapters subscribe to CQ unless there's 100%
household sub rate. Has no second.

Summary of other things:
The ICG does not meet current operating expenses at $1 per member per
year. Raise dues or cut back on expenses?

The Costumer Quarterly is not self-supporting at the $8 per year US
subscription rate. Raise rate, scale back, or discontinue and return
remaining subscribers' money?

What's the ICG supposed to do? Not determined if there really was a
previous ICG committee who did this and their conclusion. Jess
Miller has taken this action item to write a mission statement or
overall ICG goal. Can Jess give us an estimated delivery date?

There's a lot of other discussion too, but I think these are the high-
level problems crippling the ICG. We're aware of the others about
communication, CQ content, bundling the CQ and ICG Annual into
membership services, other membership services...

Sharon Trembley

--- In ICG-BOD@egroups.com, "Bruce & Nora Mai" <casamai@p...> wrote:
> There may be money in the bank, but are all financial problems
resolved for
> the forseeable future?
>
> (Still wiating on the summary of issues before the Board)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <callisto@n...>
> To: <ICG-BOD@egroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 5:52 PM
> Subject: [ICG-BOD] Re: Treasurer' s report
>
>
> > There is money in the bank

Here's a link to a local news headline mentioning the ICG. It's not us, but it's very appropriate to our current situation. BTW, this ICG has a really cool office building on the highway, it may be vacant in the future, and it's already got the ICG sign, future corporate office ;-)

http://www.msnbc.com/local/rtco/m300.asp

Michael

ps. JohnO, ICG-BOD doesn't show up in my group list when I access my egroups acct. I've tried searching for the group, but can't find it. Any ideas?

Cool, now we can grab ICG.com <grin>

Timothy wrote:

>
> Here's a link to a local news headline mentioning the ICG. It's not
> us, but it's very appropriate to our current situation. BTW, this ICG
> has a really cool office building on the highway, it may be vacant in
> the future, and it's already got the ICG sign, future corporate office
> ;-)
>
> http://www.msnbc.com/local/rtco/m300.asp

Timothy wrote:

> ps. JohnO, ICG-BOD doesn't show up in my group list when I access my
> egroups acct. I've tried searching for the group, but can't find it.
> Any ideas?

Several folks have mentioned that if I subscribed them, then
the ICG-D or ICG-BOD list do not show up in the My eGroups page.
This happens whether the individual was already a member of
eGroups or if they join after being subscribed to the ICG lists.

To resolve this, you have resubscribe to the list via the web pages.

However, the ICG-BOD is private list and does not show up in
the directory nor can it be found in a search. You must go
directly to its web page.

http://www.egroups.com/group/ICG-BOD

Hope this helps.

JohnO

PS: Next update to the Subscribe and About the lists,
I'll expand the section about this issue.

PPS: Michael, why does your return address ID you as Timothy.

It's got some pretty good telecommunication equipment, too, I
presume.

Byron

>>> plastic@codenet.net 11/14/00 11:46PM >>>

Here's a link to a local news headline mentioning the ICG. It's not us, but it's very appropriate to our current situation. BTW, this ICG has a really cool office building on the highway, it may be vacant in the future, and it's already got the ICG sign, future corporate office ;-)

http://www.msnbc.com/local/rtco/m300.asp

Michael

ps. JohnO, ICG-BOD doesn't show up in my group list when I access my egroups acct. I've tried searching for the group, but can't find it. Any ideas?

That's odd. I already had an egroups acct and you signed me up for both lists. However, ICG-D does appear in my list, but not ICG-BOD. I'll try going through it's page.

>Several folks have mentioned that if I subscribed them, then
>the ICG-D or ICG-BOD list do not show up in the My eGroups page.
>This happens whether the individual was already a member of
>eGroups or if they join after being subscribed to the ICG lists.
>

Because, my email acct is an additional email acct off of my brothers main acct. I really didn't see a need to have 2 separate ISP accts in the same house. That's his name. I've changed every name I can, but still can't change that.

>PPS: Michael, why does your return address ID you as Timothy.

I've approved your membership plastic at mail.codenet.com,
you were subscribed by me as plastic at codenet.com.

I'll bet you have a posting alias in your eGroups profile
that lets you post from either domain.

Your ICG-D membership is at mail.codenet.com.

--- In ICG-BOD@egroups.com, "Timothy" <plastic@c...> wrote:
> That's odd. I already had an egroups acct and you
> signed me up for both lists. However, ICG-D does
> appear in my list, but not ICG-BOD. I'll try going
> through it's page.

JohnO

We'd love more advertising. Ads generate $'s, which helps to
minimize the need for increases in subscription prices. Without a
reliable track record of publication, we haven't been able to attract
many advertisers. Now, I hope, we will be in better shape to do
so.

So, if you have any leads on potential advertisers, send 'm Carl's
way.

Byron

>>> plastic@mail.codenet.net 11/15/00 11:37PM >>>

I believe I received the Millennium Chapter copy today Nov 15. The cover is badly torn, but someone at the post office actually taped it all back together again. Most surprising. I have taken a moment to flip through it and read several of the articles of interest. It is what I would expect/like to see in the CQ. More advertising would be nice as well as better photo repro quality (half-tones?) would be very nice. Just my 2c worth.

Bruno

Couple of questions. Was it this issue of the
quarterly that was sent out to all members? Because I
got copies both at the chapter mailbox and my home
address.
Also, I understand the new dues are to take effect
January 6(pending the highly likely raise). Our fiscal
year starts October 31, and quite a few people have
already paid their dues. Some of them will pay the
extra, but possibly not all. Does that mean we have to
tell them they're not ICG members?
Thanks
carol

=====
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Manager Costume Programming Track Chicon 2000
Co-chair CostumeCon 21

__________________________________________________
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As I understand it, if there is a dues' increase it takes effect Jan.
6th. That's the day the annual update to the ICG Treasurer is due.
Any updates after that should be at the higher rate if the motion
passes. This could be an incentive for local chapters to update
on-time with the dues and such they've collected on behalf of the ICG.

Sharon
Treasurer

--- In ICG-BOD@egroups.com, Carol Mitchell <costumeboss@y...> wrote:
> Couple of questions. Was it this issue of the
> quarterly that was sent out to all members? Because I
> got copies both at the chapter mailbox and my home
> address.
> Also, I understand the new dues are to take effect
> January 6(pending the highly likely raise). Our fiscal
> year starts October 31, and quite a few people have
> already paid their dues. Some of them will pay the
> extra, but possibly not all. Does that mean we have to
> tell them they're not ICG members?
> Thanks
> carol
>
> =====
> Carol Mitchell President Chicagoland Costumer's Guild
> Manager Costume Programming Track Chicon 2000
> Co-chair CostumeCon 21
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays!
> http://calendar.yahoo.com/

The 1999 issue made it to our address in Albany, NY, yesterday,
11/16, leaving central New Jersey to contest for the honor of being
the last in the world to receive it.

Byron

Hi Folks,

I've just been informed that my ISP is ceasing operations at 2pm Today
(Friday). One hour and 40 minutes notice. They *say* that they have
transferred operations to another company and that operation will continue
seamlessly, but just in case messages start bouncing, here are some other
addresses you can use to send me messages:
costumer@excite.com
cloakmaker@usa.net

I was not aware we had any outstanding amounts owing. Do you have any
record what the $17.75 the WCCG owes is for?

-----Original Message-----
From: callisto@netlabs.net [mailto:callisto@netlabs.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:58 PM
To: ICG-BOD@egroups.com
Subject: [ICG-BOD] Re: Treasurer' s report


<Did previous CQ editors ship all the copies to the non-US subscribers?
There's the prior balance from the three non-US chapters for previous
CQs that carried over to my term as ICG Treasurer. I recommended
they be written off as bad debt at the 2000 Annual Meeting. The
amounts were (in US dollars):

Western Canada $ 17.75
Australia 179.05
United Kingdom 320.98>

Happy to oblige -

4th qtr 1996 was $17.93
1st qtr 1997 was 19.93
2nd qtr 1997 was 5.10 (started mailing just one master)
3rd qtr 1997 was 5.90
1&2 qtr 1998 was 8.90

Totals $57.76

Jana applied to this payments WCCG made for the CQ postage -
$8 3/12/97, $8 2/23/98, $8 7/12/98, and $16 11/19/98

Less the $40 = $17.75 billed by Jana in March 1999. The email copy I
have in the folder sent to me by her does not have the recipient's
email address. Australia doesn't either. UK's was teddy@mdx.ac.uk

Jana had some further notes circa Oct 1998 suggesting to charge the
sub rate of $8 plus an additional overseas rate to members rather than
billing the local chapters for the actual mailing costs after they
were sent.

Sharon

--- In ICG-BOD@egroups.com, "Eileen Capes" <ecapes@n...> wrote:
> I was not aware we had any outstanding amounts owing. Do you have
any
> record what the $17.75 the WCCG owes is for?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: callisto@n... [mailto:callisto@n...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:58 PM
> To: ICG-BOD@egroups.com
> Subject: [ICG-BOD] Re: Treasurer' s report
>
>
> <Did previous CQ editors ship all the copies to the non-US
subscribers?
> There's the prior balance from the three non-US chapters for
previous
> CQs that carried over to my term as ICG Treasurer. I recommended
> they be written off as bad debt at the 2000 Annual Meeting. The
> amounts were (in US dollars):
>
> Western Canada $ 17.75
> Australia 179.05
> United Kingdom 320.98>

Hokay. Finally back online. Since I have the day off, I'm trying to get
caught up with our e-mail.

Yes, please send me a list of the members you show. This will be grist for
the meeting this weekend.

Bruce

----- Original Message -----
From: <callisto@netlabs.net>
To: <ICG-BOD@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 4:32 AM
Subject: [ICG-BOD] Re: CQ delivery


> Bruce and Nora,
>
> If you are referring to the 1999 combo issue, that was sent to all ICG
> members with this criteria - US member whose dues were current. It
> was approved by the BOD at the 2000 Annual Meeting to send the next CQ
> issue to all members to increase interest in the publication.
>
> The regular subscribers should have gotten the two 2000 issues
> already. The only SLUT subsciber is Pierre P.
>
> I'm in NJ and have not gotten mine in the mail from Philadelphia yet
> so there should still be some in the mail. I can send you a list of
> the St. Louis chapter who should anticipate one of the 1999 issues.
> The mail delay should be alleviated by Carl's proposal to use first
> class mail.
>
> Sharon
>
> (We do have future liability for the CQ, I have not calculated it
> since CC. Will do this week.)
>
>
> --- In ICG-BOD@egroups.com, "Bruce & Nora Mai" <casamai@p...> wrote:
> > Okay. Here we go again.
> >
> > I need to know who was sent CQs. Apparently, some of our members
> got them,
> > and others have not. Is there still some policy to send issues owed
> to
> > people? As far as I knew, none of our members were owed CQs anymore
> (I
> > could be wrong), yet here they are.
> >
> > There are some serious discrepancies here, and it appears to be the
> same old
> > problem again of some getting them and others are not.
>
>
>
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Mine arrived on 11/16 in Canoga Park CA, also, tying for slowest.

Jess

----- Original Message -----
From: "Byron Connell" <bconnell@MAIL.NYSED.GOV>
To: <ICG-BOD@egroups.com>; <ICG-D@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 9:42 AM
Subject: [ICG-BOD] CQ Delivery


> The 1999 issue made it to our address in Albany, NY, yesterday,
> 11/16, leaving central New Jersey to contest for the honor of being
> the last in the world to receive it.
>
> Byron
>
>
>
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I just picked up a check from a new long-distance SWCG Member in Nevada, who
paid for ICG and CG, as well as local.

I presume this gets her a year of CQ at the old rate, rather than the
not-yet-voted-in increase?

Randall
SWCG Mailbox Guy

In a message dated 11/17/00 5:30:13 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
callisto@netlabs.net writes:

> As I understand it, if there is a dues' increase it takes effect Jan.
> 6th. That's the day the annual update to the ICG Treasurer is due.
> Any updates after that should be at the higher rate if the motion
> passes. This could be an incentive for local chapters to update
> on-time with the dues and such they've collected on behalf of the ICG.
>
> Sharon
> Treasurer

No bounces reported by eGroups, with 3 messages after the cutoff.

Please respond if you get this, just in case the ISP is still receiving,
but you can't get to or they loose the messages.

JohnO

Dina Flockhart wrote:

>
> I've just been informed that my ISP is ceasing operations at 2pm Today
> (Friday). One hour and 40 minutes notice. They *say* that they have
> transferred operations to another company and that operation will
> continue seamlessly, but just in case messages start bouncing,
> here are some other addresses you can use to send me messages:
> costumer@excite.com
> cloakmaker@usa.net
>

Maybe not, they are going bankrupt. :/

JohnO

Byron Connell wrote:

>
> It's got some pretty good telecommunication equipment, too, I
> presume.
>
> Byron
>
> >>> plastic@codenet.net 11/14/00 11:46PM >>>
> Here's a link to a local news headline mentioning the ICG. It's not
> us, but it's very appropriate to our current situation. BTW, this ICG
> has a really cool office building on the highway, it may be vacant in
> the future, and it's already got the ICG sign, future corporate office

Falling in the "Duh. Why didn't I think of this earlier." category.

I can make available via the ICG Website or the eGroups files section,
the electronic version of the CQ. Subject to size limitation.

On the website I can password protect the file and announce it on
ICG-BOD.

On eGroups, it can be placed in the ICG-BOD files section.

Why only ICG-BOD? Because every user is vetted and ICG-D has non-ICG
members.

JohnO

<Chirp, Chirp>

Guess I'll just go with the basics and say:

"The ICG is in a financial crisis and needs donations!"

How does that sound?

JohnO

John O'Halloran wrote 11/10/2000:

>
> I'm working on the website update and I'm having
> difficulty in phrasing the notice of the financial
> crisis and the request for donations.
>
> Can anybody give me a short blurb or pair of blurbs for the
> "Announcemnts" section of the web site.
>
> Thanks
> JohnO
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