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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 401 From: Jennifer Adams Kelley Date: 5/1/2001
Subject: Re: Fw: Membership Question
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 402 From: Darla Kruger Date: 5/1/2001
Subject: Re: Fw: Membership Question
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 403 From: bruno@armyofdorkness.org Date: 5/1/2001
Subject: Re: Membership Question
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 404 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 5/2/2001
Subject: Membership Question
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 405 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 5/2/2001
Subject: FYI
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 406 From: Jennifer Adams Kelley Date: 5/2/2001
Subject: Re: Fw: Membership Question
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 407 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 5/3/2001
Subject: Re: Membership Question -- doh!
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 408 From: Darla Kruger Date: 5/3/2001
Subject: Re: Fw: Membership Question
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 409 From: Jennifer Adams Kelley Date: 5/3/2001
Subject: Re: Fw: Membership Question
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 410 From: Dina Flockhart Date: 5/3/2001
Subject: Re: Fw: Membership Question
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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 413 From: Sharon Date: 5/4/2001
Subject: Re: Fw: Membership Question
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 414 From: costumeboss@yahoo.com Date: 5/4/2001
Subject: Sorry you got dragged into a family fight
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 415 From: Byron Connell Date: 5/5/2001
Subject: Re: Fw: Membership Question
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 416 From: Eileen Capes Date: 5/6/2001
Subject: Calgary - Getting from the airport
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 417 From: Darla Kruger Date: 5/7/2001
Subject: Re: Sorry you got dragged into a family fight
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 418 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 5/11/2001
Subject: Re: Sorry you got dragged into a family fight
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 419 From: Byron Connell Date: 5/13/2001
Subject: ICG Annual Meeting
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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 425 From: Darla Kruger Date: 5/15/2001
Subject: CGW Representation ...
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Subject: Re: ICG Annual Meeting
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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 429 From: Byron Connell Date: 5/18/2001
Subject: Costume Mafia
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Subject: Fundraising
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Subject: Re: Fundraising
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Subject: Re: ICG Annual Meeting
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Subject: Re: Fundraising
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 436 From: Byron Connell Date: 5/21/2001
Subject: Final Presidential Message
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 437 From: Byron Connell Date: 5/21/2001
Subject: My Whereabouts
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Subject: Re: Fundraising
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 439 From: Dina Flockhart Date: 5/22/2001
Subject: Re: Fundraising
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 440 From: Sharon Date: 5/23/2001
Subject: Re: Fundraising
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Subject: Re: ICG Annual Meeting
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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 444 From: ICG WebMaster - John O'Halloran Date: 5/24/2001
Subject: GHAK - It's that time of year
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Subject: Re: Reminder - Quarterly Reports are due in 1 mnth
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Subject: Re: Fundraising
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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 401 From: Jennifer Adams Kelley Date: 5/1/2001
Subject: Re: Fw: Membership Question
Sharon said,

>I agree it's a chapter question. Chicagoland only had Lauren listed
>as a member in what they've sent me, but we wouldn't know which way
>this membership misunderstanding went - if they paid for a family or
>single membership locally.

The Chicagaoland Costumers Guild considers the issue of family memberships
an ICG issue. Both myself and Our Treasurer, Barbara Wright, have been
waiting since December for an answer out of the ICG Treasurer regarding
policy. All we want to know is whether or not people can have a "Household"
membership in the ICG. Then we can set dues for houshold memberships
locally accordingly.

As far as the other issues raised, the Galls have been complaining for
months about everything in relation to the CCG. They're basically unhappy
because we're not as organized as a local Star Wars fan group. If need be,
I'd be happy to refute their exaggerations and half-truths point by point,
but I won't unless I'm asked, because as people have said already, it's a
local issue, not a board issue. (Other than the one point.)

So, WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE ADVISE WHAT THE POLICY ON HOUSEHOLD MEMBERSHIPS IN
THE ICG IS? Thank you.

Yours,
Jennifer Kelley,
secretary,
Chicagoland Costumers' Guild

(responding on behalf of the CCG because our president is still mostly out
of communications reach from her accident last December.)
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 402 From: Darla Kruger Date: 5/1/2001
Subject: Re: Fw: Membership Question
Here's my suggestion.

1) We contact these two people and let them know we're
looking into it.

2) Jess as corresponding secretary, or Byron as the
president, should telephone (not e-mail) the powers
that be in Chicagoland and ask them about this. Our
experience here with the CGW (and Jess can completely
attest to this) is that just because a member makes
certain allegations does not mean they're true.
Before doing anything, we should find out what's
happening at the chapter level.

3) With regard to the CC21 and hotel issues, as I
recall a few years ago there was a question of an ICG
fiduciary duty to any chapter running a Con. At that
time, because we wanted to make it clear that the ICG
had no financial or other responsibilities connected
with chapters running a Con, we made some statements
to that effect. Therefore, we need to refer anyone
asking us (the ICG) any questions regarding these
issues back to the chapter and explain we have nothing
to do with the running of Cons and that answering
these questions and all responsibilities are up to the
individual chapters (especially a hotel issue). If we
get involved in any way, a court could interpret that
as if we were taking responsibility for the Con and
therefore had a financial duty to any creditor. I
don't know if this action on our part protects us for
certain, but it can't hurt.

Ultimately, nothing should be done on this e-mail
until the chapter has been spoken to and we have all
sides of the issues.

Darla


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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 403 From: bruno@armyofdorkness.org Date: 5/1/2001
Subject: Re: Membership Question
My understanding is that the ICG has a flat rate of $4 per member. It is
up to the local chapters to work that amount in to their own dues structure
in order to cover costs.

Here in the Millennium Costumers Guild (MCG) we have instuted the
following:

Single Member = $8 = $4 local dues + $4 ICG dues
Household = $8 (single member) + $4 (ICG) for each extra person in house
Associate = $5 = $1 local + $4 ICG (for persons outside our geographic
area)

Our dues structure for household has always been Local dues + (ICG dues x
number of members in household).

We added the associate membership when we revised our dues structure to
accomodate the increased ICG dues.

Michael Bruno, President
Millennium Costumers Guild

Jennifer Adams Kelley writes:

> The Chicagaoland Costumers Guild considers the issue of family memberships
> an ICG issue. Both myself and Our Treasurer, Barbara Wright, have been
> waiting since December for an answer out of the ICG Treasurer regarding
> policy. All we want to know is whether or not people can have a "Household"
> membership in the ICG. Then we can set dues for houshold memberships
> locally accordingly.
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 404 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 5/2/2001
Subject: Membership Question
What the hey, I'll poke my nose in here.

As far as I know there's NEVER been a household membership policy. If it
ain't in the by-laws, the chapter works it out themselves. That's what we
do. For each member, there's the ICG dues per person. On top of that, we
add our own membership for one person. Beyond that, we add a set fee per
person in a household that includes the ICG dues. So, in our case, if
there's two people, there's $4 for ICG, $3 for SLCG membership and $8 for
the Scarlet Letter and other costs, so it's $15. For each additional person
in a household, it's another $7 ($4 for ICG and $3 for SLCG -- no additional
newsletter is sent to the household). So for the household of 2, it's $22.

I don't doubt that there is definitely 2 sides of the issue here (there will
always be bellyachers), but it sounds like timely communcations -- even a
"We dunno -- we gotta ask the Powers That Be" might have mollified them
temporarily, rather than staying silent (this is presuming no communication
took place since December).

If these folks are getting The Hit List, I believe they would have known
about the venue change, but it sounds like the website may need more timely
updating. The point of folks without e-mail are out of the loop is well
taken, if it's true.

I'm sure Jennifer has lots of facts to back up that they've tried, but there
will always be some who may not be happy with the level of organization in a
group. That's why they eventually either quit or offer to take leadership
(the more constructive alternative).

Bruce
El Presidente
http://members.nbci.com/slcg
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 405 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 5/2/2001
Subject: FYI
Hi everyone,

Sorry to be off line for a couple of weeks.  We have just moved (houses, not e-mail).

We're a  bit nervous about posting things on the list as a whole. In the next day or so we'll be sending out a bulk mailing to everyone we think have our address.  If you don't get a message by the middle of next week and you have our old address, let us know and we'll correct. Unfortunately, our e-address book didn't make it from the old computer and we'll have to reconstruct group mailings from scratch.

Pierre and Sandy

"Those Who Fail To Learn History
Are Doomed To Repeat It;
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly--
Why They Are Simply Doomed."

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"The Illusion of Historical Fact"
-- C.Y. 4971

Andromeda

Group: ICG-BOD Message: 406 From: Jennifer Adams Kelley Date: 5/2/2001
Subject: Re: Fw: Membership Question
Thanks to Bruno and Bruce for answering, and for revealing how their
membership prices are structured. With that information at hand, I can
present it to the other CCG board members and perhaps we can finally
resolve the "household" membership issue.

We're aware of our Guild organizational problems, and we're working on
them. We're just really tired of the Galls rubbing our noses in the problem
yet not offering to help sort things out themselves.

And, let me assure you all, Costume-Con 21 isn't as scatterbrained as the
Chicagoland Costumers Guild is at the moment! 8)

--Jennifer Kelley, secretary, Chicagoland Costumers' Guild

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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 407 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 5/3/2001
Subject: Re: Membership Question -- doh!
That should have been: So, in our case, for just one person, there's $4 for
ICG, $3 for SLCG membership and $8 for
> the Scarlet Letter and other costs, so it's $15. For each additional
person
> in a household, it's another $7 ($4 for ICG and $3 for SLCG -- no
additional
> newsletter is sent to the household). So for the household of 2, it's
$22.
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 408 From: Darla Kruger Date: 5/3/2001
Subject: Re: Fw: Membership Question
At this phase, I personally don't know what the ICG
view is (that should probably be answered by Byron),
but I can tell you "household" memberships or family
memberships are considered by the Costumer's Guild
West as a local issue. A membership in our chapter is
a membership in our chapter. I'm not sure why a
family membership would be an ICG issue.

How we do it is that we collect a moderate amount over
what our usual membership is for a household since
this extra person at the same address receives a
membership with all the benefits but does not receive
a copy of our newsletter (thus the lower cost for the
added membership). When the ICG membership went up
by $3.00, we added that extra amount to the household.
Our household membership cost is $13. This is $9 to
become a family member of the CGW and $4 for
membership in the ICG. But this added person is a
member of the both CGW and ICG just as the original
member is only they don't get a newsletter. I know
this doesn't answer your question, but it might give a
frame of reference.

I know it's annoying when a member goes to the ICG,
but if a member appears to have problems getting a
response from a chapter, they do have a right to go
higher up the ladder. However, we have here with the
CGW occasionally experienced members who it seems that
if they either don't get the answer they wanted or are
just disgruntled because of expectations that cannot
be met will go to the ICG. But we've never had the
ICG interfere with our local policies that I know of.

We've had the same thing happen here with allegations
and accusations that stem from unreasonable
expectations.

Can I ask why Chicagoland considers family memberships
an ICG question? Do you guys only collect $4 for the
extra person and nothing for your chapter itself (i.e.
Chicagoland membership and $4 for the original member
and then just another $4 that goes to the ICG for the
additional person)?

Darla Kruger
CGW President

--- Jennifer Adams Kelley <jakelley@jennifarse.com>
wrote:
> Sharon said,
>
> >I agree it's a chapter question. Chicagoland only
> had Lauren listed
> >as a member in what they've sent me, but we
> wouldn't know which way
> >this membership misunderstanding went - if they
> paid for a family or
> >single membership locally.
>
> The Chicagaoland Costumers Guild considers the issue
> of family memberships
> an ICG issue. Both myself and Our Treasurer, Barbara
> Wright, have been
> waiting since December for an answer out of the ICG
> Treasurer regarding
> policy. All we want to know is whether or not people
> can have a "Household"
> membership in the ICG. Then we can set dues for
> houshold memberships
> locally accordingly.
>
> As far as the other issues raised, the Galls have
> been complaining for
> months about everything in relation to the CCG.
> They're basically unhappy
> because we're not as organized as a local Star Wars
> fan group. If need be,
> I'd be happy to refute their exaggerations and
> half-truths point by point,
> but I won't unless I'm asked, because as people have
> said already, it's a
> local issue, not a board issue. (Other than the one
> point.)
>
> So, WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE ADVISE WHAT THE POLICY ON
> HOUSEHOLD MEMBERSHIPS IN
> THE ICG IS? Thank you.
>
> Yours,
> Jennifer Kelley,
> secretary,
> Chicagoland Costumers' Guild
>
> (responding on behalf of the CCG because our
> president is still mostly out
> of communications reach from her accident last
> December.)
>
>


=====
Sincerely,
Darla Kruger
Dean, Costume College 2001
President, Costumer's Guild West

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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 409 From: Jennifer Adams Kelley Date: 5/3/2001
Subject: Re: Fw: Membership Question
Darla Kruger said,

>Can I ask why Chicagoland considers family memberships
>an ICG question? Do you guys only collect $4 for the
>extra person and nothing for your chapter itself (i.e.
>Chicagoland membership and $4 for the original member
>and then just another $4 that goes to the ICG for the
>additional person)?

We consider it an ICG issue because we didn't have clarification on if it
had to be one person/one membership or not, and we didn't want to set
family membership costs until we knew for sure. Until this year, when ICG
dues were $1, we charged $8/person and $10/family, and just sent in $1 and
one name out of the family for ICG rosters. But with the financial crisis
the ICG went through recently, we just wanted to make sure we were sending
all the money to the ICG that the ICG was rightfully owed!

Now that we have the answer, though, about the ICG, we're in the process of
voting on new family memberships fees.
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 410 From: Dina Flockhart Date: 5/3/2001
Subject: Re: Fw: Membership Question
Hi folks,

Just my 2 cents - catching up after taking the baby home (finally!)

Northern Lights has a household membership rate of $15, which covers up to
3 people at one address. We send in $4 for each person, and have a column
in the treasurer's spreadsheet for noting head of household and member of
household - Sharon sent us the spreadsheet, which had a separate cost for
each person listed.

On the subject of ICG BOD contributions to the CQ - can we change the
wording to "submit 3 contributions per year" rather than "write 3 articles"
? It opens up the thinking for pictures, book reviews, sketches, or
chapter advertisements. It feels like a bit less pressure to me.

I will not be in Calgary. I will be designating a chapter rep by the next
meeting (May 13). I have officially transferred both my and my husband's
memberships to Dora Buck's family.

Sharon, have you gotten an official Quarterly from the Northern Lights'
Treasurer?

Have fun!

Dina Flockhart
Northern Lights



At 08:37 AM 5/2/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Thanks to Bruno and Bruce for answering, and for revealing how their
>membership prices are structured. With that information at hand, I can
>present it to the other CCG board members and perhaps we can finally
>resolve the "household" membership issue.
>
>We're aware of our Guild organizational problems, and we're working on
>them. We're just really tired of the Galls rubbing our noses in the problem
>yet not offering to help sort things out themselves.
>
>And, let me assure you all, Costume-Con 21 isn't as scatterbrained as the
>Chicagoland Costumers Guild is at the moment! 8)
>
>--Jennifer Kelley, secretary, Chicagoland Costumers' Guild
>
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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 413 From: Sharon Date: 5/4/2001
Subject: Re: Fw: Membership Question
--- In ICG-BOD@y..., Dina Flockhart <cloak@z...> wrote in part:
> Hi folks,
>
> Just my 2 cents - catching up after taking the baby home (finally!)
>
We send in $4 for each person, and have a column
> in the treasurer's spreadsheet for noting head of household and
member of
> household - Sharon sent us the spreadsheet, which had a separate
cost for
> each person listed.

> Sharon, have you gotten an official Quarterly from the Northern
Lights'
> Treasurer?
>
> Have fun!
>
> Dina Flockhart
> Northern Lights
>

Correct. $4 per person after 1/7/01. Before that $1 per person.
Never had family rates.

The last Northern Lights update I rec'd, Dina, was from you.

Sharon
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 414 From: costumeboss@yahoo.com Date: 5/4/2001
Subject: Sorry you got dragged into a family fight
I'm not sure why the Galls thought it necessary to send chapter-only
complaints to you, but I think they misunderstand the ICG
structure,if they expect the Board to correct anything. Unfortunately
I have not been able to do much for the local group because of my
injury, our vice president is running his own convention, and the
rest of our board, besides their own lives, were finding keeping up
with plans for CostumeCon 21 as much as they could handle. The fact is
that Jennifer Kelley has managed to send out monthly guild mailings
and meetings have been held, which under the circumstances strikes me
as being more than might have been managed.
I had suggested to the Galls that they volunteer to help. I guess
they got impatient.
Again, I apologize
Carol Mitchell
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 415 From: Byron Connell Date: 5/5/2001
Subject: Re: Fw: Membership Question
Jennifer --

The answer to your question is "No, there is no such thing as an ICG family
membership." Membership in the ICG is for individuals; whether or not a
chapter wishes to offer family memberships is strictly a chapter decision.

I'm sorry that you did not get a response from the Treasurer when you asked
in December; I did not know you had made the inquiry.

Byron


----Original Message-----
From: Jennifer Adams Kelley <jakelley@jennifarse.com>
To: ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] Re: Fw: Membership Question


>Sharon said,
>
>>I agree it's a chapter question. Chicagoland only had Lauren listed
>>as a member in what they've sent me, but we wouldn't know which way
>>this membership misunderstanding went - if they paid for a family or
>>single membership locally.
>
>The Chicagaoland Costumers Guild considers the issue of family memberships
>an ICG issue. Both myself and Our Treasurer, Barbara Wright, have been
>waiting since December for an answer out of the ICG Treasurer regarding
>policy. All we want to know is whether or not people can have a "Household"
>membership in the ICG. Then we can set dues for houshold memberships
>locally accordingly.
>
>As far as the other issues raised, the Galls have been complaining for
>months about everything in relation to the CCG. They're basically unhappy
>because we're not as organized as a local Star Wars fan group. If need be,
>I'd be happy to refute their exaggerations and half-truths point by point,
>but I won't unless I'm asked, because as people have said already, it's a
>local issue, not a board issue. (Other than the one point.)
>
>So, WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE ADVISE WHAT THE POLICY ON HOUSEHOLD MEMBERSHIPS IN
>THE ICG IS? Thank you.
>
>Yours,
>Jennifer Kelley,
>secretary,
>Chicagoland Costumers' Guild
>
>(responding on behalf of the CCG because our president is still mostly out
>of communications reach from her accident last December.)
>
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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 416 From: Eileen Capes Date: 5/6/2001
Subject: Calgary - Getting from the airport
If you are planning to come to Costume-Con 19, but haven't received any of
the information yet, here is how you get from the Calgary airport to CC19's
hotel:

There is a full size shuttle bus called the "Airporter Hotel Bus Service"
which leaves the airport every half-hour on the hour and half-hour and does
a circuit of the downtown hotels. Look for the red cardinal on the side of
the bus. The cost is $9 Cdn. per person one-way and $15 round trip. The
Westin Hotel is the third stop of ten. Getting to the hotel from the
airport will take about twenty to twenty-five minutes, but if you are
returning to the airport on a weekday, allow forty to forty-five minutes.
Remember, May 28th is not a holiday in Canada.
There are also minivans, the "Airport Shuttle Express" which will take you
anywhere in the city from the airport. The cost is $10 Cdn. per person
one-way. These seat eleven and can be booked at their counter near the
baggage claim.
If there are a few of you traveling together, you may prefer to take a taxi
to the hotel. The cost would be between $22 and $25 Cdn. Some taxi
companies will offer a flat rate, so inquire before you leave the airport.
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 417 From: Darla Kruger Date: 5/7/2001
Subject: Re: Sorry you got dragged into a family fight
In my opinion Carol, no apology necessary. It's
happened to us here a couple of times over the past
few years. I've found many times those people in
these all-volunteer groups who complain the most and
the loudest are never the ones who actually do the
work. With doing Costume College every year, I
understand having your committee and board stretched
to its limit. I'm not sure what is expected by the
general membership, but I'm sure you Chicagoland folks
are dancing as fast as you can. I hope your personally
doing better, by the way.

Sincerely,
Darla

=====
Sincerely,
Darla Kruger
Dean, Costume College 2001
President, Costumer's Guild West

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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 418 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 5/11/2001
Subject: Re: Sorry you got dragged into a family fight
And I just discovered they're sniffing around our mailbox about maembership
rates.
Should we be worried. I just now sent them a reply after finding their
letter in a bunch of stuff we hadn't cleared out yet. (Oops).

Bruce
El Presidente
http://members.nbci.com/slcg

----- Original Message -----
From: "Darla Kruger" <devinedwk2001@yahoo.com>
To: <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [ICG-BOD] Sorry you got dragged into a family fight


> In my opinion Carol, no apology necessary. It's
> happened to us here a couple of times over the past
> few years. I've found many times those people in
> these all-volunteer groups who complain the most and
> the loudest are never the ones who actually do the
> work. With doing Costume College every year, I
> understand having your committee and board stretched
> to its limit. I'm not sure what is expected by the
> general membership, but I'm sure you Chicagoland folks
> are dancing as fast as you can. I hope your personally
> doing better, by the way.
>
> Sincerely,
> Darla
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 419 From: Byron Connell Date: 5/13/2001
Subject: ICG Annual Meeting
International Costumers' Guild
 
Office of the President
50 Dove Street
Albany, NY  12210-1811 USA
 
May 13, 2001
 

To the Board of Directors, Committee Chairs, and Staff:
 
The 2001 Annual Meeting
 
 This message is to prepare for the Annual Meeting at CC 19.  I am sending it by both regular post and e-mail. Please let me know which Officers of the Corporation and ICG staff will be at the Annual Meeting (hint: if you're coming to the Con, I expect you to be at the meeting) and who will be representing each Chapter. The Meeting will be held on Monday, May 28. We must start promptly at 10:00.
 
Draft Annual Meeting Agenda
 
 My draft of the Agenda is enclosed for your review and suggestion.  Please review it and make suggestions for additions, deletions, and other changes as quickly as possible. JohnO, I want to post the final agenda on the web site. 
 
 Reports.  The only required report is mine.  However, traditionally we've received reports from virtually all officers and staff; therefore, I've included the full list.  They generally may be brief, except for those of the Treasurer and the CQ Editor.  If you feel no report from you is needed, please request deleting it from the agenda (that doesn't apply to Sharon or to Carl as CQ Editor). If someone scheduled to report won't be there, please provide a written report one of us can read.  Sharon, do you have someone yet to present the Treasurer's Report?  Whether you do or not, please get a copy to me before I leave Albany on the 22nd.
     
 Old Business. I know of none.  Is there anything?
 
 New Business.  I have listed two: action on the ICG Mission Statement and action to make the position of Chapter Liaison permanent.  As an alternative to making Guido a permanent position we could extend it for an additional year.  Darla, if you're president we'll have to find someone else for this job.
 
Does anyone have anything else?  If so, we should list it in advance.
 
Election of Officers (and Appointment of Staff).  As you know, the slate of nominees is as follows:
 
President:    Darla Kruger
Vice President:   Carl Mami
Treasurer:    Sharon Trembley
Corresponding Secretary: Laura Rico
Recording Secretary:  Dora Buck
 
Of course, nominations may be made from the floor.  Do Carl, Jeannette, JohnO, and Pierre plan to continue in their appointed positions?
 
Board of Directors Meeting
 
 As you know, the Board of Directors will meet at 9:00 a.m. on Monday, May 28, to review the agenda and adopt the budget.  With few items of new business we ought to be able to confine ourselves to agenda the budget and finish in time to convene the Annual Meeting promptly.
 
 If you have any suggestions for the Annual Meeting, let us all know.  My flight leaves on May 22, so you'll have to let us know by no later than Monday, May 21 (preferably earlier).
 
Yours,
 
Byron P. Connell, President
 

DRAFT, 5/13/01, BPC
Proposed Agenda
For the 2001 Annual Meeting of the International Costumers' Guild, Inc., and Concurrent Meeting of its Board of Directors
 
I. Call to Order of the Meeting
 
II. Determination of a Quorum
 A. Members Present
 B. Members Represented by Proxy
 
III. Approval of the Minutes of the 2000 Annual Meeting
 
IV. Reports
 A. Report of the President
 B. Report of the Vice President
 C. Report of the Treasurer
  1. Finance
  2. Membership
  3. Chapters' recognition terminated
 D. Report of the Corresponding Secretary
  1. Correspondence
  2. Public Relations Committee
 E. Report of the Recording Secretary
 F. Report of the Editor, ICG Annual
 G. Report of the Editor, The Costumer's Quarterly
  1. The Editorial Board
  2. Publication and Other Matters
 H. Report of the Archivist
 I. Report of the Parliamentarian
 J. Report of the Webmaster
 K. Report of the Chapter Liaison (Guido)
 L. Report of the Special Committee on ICG Membership
 M. Report of the Fundraising Committee
 
V. Old Business
 
VI.  New Business
 A. Adoption of an ICG Mission Statement
 B. Action to make permanent the position of Chapter Liaison
 
VII.  Selection of Officers
 A. Nominations Made in Advance
 B. Nominations from the Floor
 
VIII. Adjournment of the Annual Meeting of the Members
 
IX.  Election by the Board of Directors of the Officers Selected by the Annual Meeting
 
X.  Any Other Business to Come Before the Board of Directors
 
XI.  Adjournment of the Meeting of the Board of Directors
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 420 From: bruno@armyofdorkness.org Date: 5/14/2001
Subject: Re: ICG Annual Meeting
I will be attending and representing the Chapter known as Millennium
Costumers Guild.

Michael Bruno
President
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 421 From: Eileen Capes Date: 5/15/2001
Subject: Re: ICG Annual Meeting
I have nowhere to hide.  I will be there (in body at least) representing the Western Canadian Costumers' Guild.
 
Eileen Capes
-----Original Message-----
From: Byron Connell [mailto:BP.Connell@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 8:03 PM
To: ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ICG-BOD] ICG Annual Meeting

International Costumers' Guild
 
Office of the President
50 Dove Street
Albany, NY  12210-1811 USA
 
May 13, 2001
 

To the Board of Directors, Committee Chairs, and Staff:
 
The 2001 Annual Meeting
 
 This message is to prepare for the Annual Meeting at CC 19.  I am sending it by both regular post and e-mail. Please let me know which Officers of the Corporation and ICG staff will be at the Annual Meeting (hint: if you're coming to the Con, I expect you to be at the meeting) and who will be representing each Chapter. The Meeting will be held on Monday, May 28. We must start promptly at 10:00.
 
Draft Annual Meeting Agenda
 
 My draft of the Agenda is enclosed for your review and suggestion.  Please review it and make suggestions for additions, deletions, and other changes as quickly as possible. JohnO, I want to post the final agenda on the web site. 
 
 Reports.  The only required report is mine.  However, traditionally we've received reports from virtually all officers and staff; therefore, I've included the full list.  They generally may be brief, except for those of the Treasurer and the CQ Editor.  If you feel no report from you is needed, please request deleting it from the agenda (that doesn't apply to Sharon or to Carl as CQ Editor). If someone scheduled to report won't be there, please provide a written report one of us can read.  Sharon, do you have someone yet to present the Treasurer's Report?  Whether you do or not, please get a copy to me before I leave Albany on the 22nd.
     
 Old Business. I know of none.  Is there anything?
 
 New Business.  I have listed two: action on the ICG Mission Statement and action to make the position of Chapter Liaison permanent.  As an alternative to making Guido a permanent position we could extend it for an additional year.  Darla, if you're president we'll have to find someone else for this job.
 
Does anyone have anything else?  If so, we should list it in advance.
 
Election of Officers (and Appointment of Staff).  As you know, the slate of nominees is as follows:
 
President:    Darla Kruger
Vice President:   Carl Mami
Treasurer:    Sharon Trembley
Corresponding Secretary: Laura Rico
Recording Secretary:  Dora Buck
 
Of course, nominations may be made from the floor.  Do Carl, Jeannette, JohnO, and Pierre plan to continue in their appointed positions?
 
Board of Directors Meeting
 
 As you know, the Board of Directors will meet at 9:00 a.m. on Monday, May 28, to review the agenda and adopt the budget.  With few items of new business we ought to be able to confine ourselves to agenda the budget and finish in time to convene the Annual Meeting promptly.
 
 If you have any suggestions for the Annual Meeting, let us all know.  My flight leaves on May 22, so you'll have to let us know by no later than Monday, May 21 (preferably earlier).
 
Yours,
 
Byron P. Connell, President
 

DRAFT, 5/13/01, BPC
Proposed Agenda
For the 2001 Annual Meeting of the International Costumers' Guild, Inc., and Concurrent Meeting of its Board of Directors
 
I. Call to Order of the Meeting
 
II. Determination of a Quorum
 A. Members Present
 B. Members Represented by Proxy
 
III. Approval of the Minutes of the 2000 Annual Meeting
 
IV. Reports
 A. Report of the President
 B. Report of the Vice President
 C. Report of the Treasurer
  1. Finance
  2. Membership
  3. Chapters' recognition terminated
 D. Report of the Corresponding Secretary
  1. Correspondence
  2. Public Relations Committee
 E. Report of the Recording Secretary
 F. Report of the Editor, ICG Annual
 G. Report of the Editor, The Costumer's Quarterly
  1. The Editorial Board
  2. Publication and Other Matters
 H. Report of the Archivist
 I. Report of the Parliamentarian
 J. Report of the Webmaster
 K. Report of the Chapter Liaison (Guido)
 L. Report of the Special Committee on ICG Membership
 M. Report of the Fundraising Committee
 
V. Old Business
 
VI.  New Business
 A. Adoption of an ICG Mission Statement
 B. Action to make permanent the position of Chapter Liaison
 
VII.  Selection of Officers
 A. Nominations Made in Advance
 B. Nominations from the Floor
 
VIII. Adjournment of the Annual Meeting of the Members
 
IX.  Election by the Board of Directors of the Officers Selected by the Annual Meeting
 
X.  Any Other Business to Come Before the Board of Directors
 
XI.  Adjournment of the Meeting of the Board of Directors


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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 422 From: Byron Connell Date: 5/15/2001
Subject: Re: ICG Annual Meeting
Eileen --

If anyone has an excuse to designate a reprresentative, you do!
Or have you done such a superb job as con chair that you have
no duties once the con begins?

Byron


>>> ecapes@nucleus.com 05/15/01 10:21AM >>>
I have nowhere to hide. I will be there (in body at least) representing the
Western Canadian Costumers' Guild.

Eileen Capes
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 423 From: Lorloth@aol.com Date: 5/15/2001
Subject: Re: ICG Annual Meeting
As far as I'm aware, there is no reperesentative from CGUK going.

However, as there are several issues which CGUK (or some of our members) have
with ICG, I will email these to Byron (sorry, you're the President, you get
dumped on, even if it's someone else's responsibility), and the issues can
then be discussed either at the AGM or separately, as appropriate.


Marion Byott (CGUK Membership Secretary/Treasurer/Temporary 'zine Editor)
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 424 From: Byron Connell Date: 5/15/2001
Subject: Re: ICG Annual Meeting
Marion --

CGUK may designate a member of another chapter to represent it.
I would encourage you to do so in order to be represented on the
Board at the Annual Meeting.

The same is true for any other chapter that otherwise would be not
be represented.

Byron


>>> Lorloth@aol.com 05/15/01 02:48PM >>>
As far as I'm aware, there is no reperesentative from CGUK going.

However, as there are several issues which CGUK (or some of our members) have
with ICG, I will email these to Byron (sorry, you're the President, you get
dumped on, even if it's someone else's responsibility), and the issues can
then be discussed either at the AGM or separately, as appropriate.


Marion Byott (CGUK Membership Secretary/Treasurer/Temporary 'zine Editor)

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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 425 From: Darla Kruger Date: 5/15/2001
Subject: CGW Representation ...
Byron,
I will be at the annual meeting representing the CGW.
I believe this will be fine for this meeting despite
my running for ICG president. Am I correct in that
presumption, or should I designate someone else as our
representative?

Darla

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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 426 From: Byron Connell Date: 5/16/2001
Subject: Re: CGW Representation ...
Darla --

There's no problem with you're representing CGW at the meeting.

Byron


>>> devinedwk2001@yahoo.com 05/15/01 05:58PM >>>
Byron,
I will be at the annual meeting representing the CGW.
I believe this will be fine for this meeting despite
my running for ICG president. Am I correct in that
presumption, or should I designate someone else as our
representative?

Darla
Group: ICG-BOD Message: 427 From: Richard Rader/Ann Stephens Date: 5/16/2001
Subject: Re: ICG Annual Meeting
Re: [ICG-BOD] ICG Annual Meeting Dear Byron,

Ron Robinson has been designated as the representative for the GCFCG.

Thanks and you all have a great time in Canada. Wish we could be there.

Ann Stephens
President/GCFCG
----------
From: "Byron Connell" <BP.Connell@worldnet.att.net>
To: <ICG-BOD@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [ICG-BOD] ICG Annual Meeting
Date: Sun, May 13, 2001, 10:03 PM


International Costumers' Guild
 
Office of the President
50 Dove Street
Albany, NY  12210-1811 USA
 
May 13, 2001
 

To the Board of Directors, Committee Chairs, and Staff:
 
The 2001 Annual Meeting
 
 This message is to prepare for the Annual Meeting at CC 19.  I am sending it by both regular post and e-mail. Please let me know which Officers of the Corporation and ICG staff will be at the Annual Meeting (hint: if you're coming to the Con, I expect you to be at the meeting) and who will be representing each Chapter. The Meeting will be held on Monday, May 28. We must start promptly at 10:00.
 
Draft Annual Meeting Agenda
 
 My draft of the Agenda is enclosed for your review and suggestion.  Please review it and make suggestions for additions, deletions, and other changes as quickly as possible. JohnO, I want to post the final agenda on the web site.  
 
 Reports.  The only required report is mine.  However, traditionally we've received reports from virtually all officers and staff; therefore, I've included the full list.  They generally may be brief, except for those of the Treasurer and the CQ Editor.  If you feel no report from you is needed, please request deleting it from the agenda (that doesn't apply to Sharon or to Carl as CQ Editor). If someone scheduled to report won't be there, please provide a written report one of us can read.  Sharon, do you have someone yet to present the Treasurer's Report?  Whether you do or not, please get a copy to me before I leave Albany on the 22nd.
      
 Old Business. I know of none.  Is there anything?
 
 New Business.  I have listed two: action on the ICG Mission Statement and action to make the position of Chapter Liaison permanent.  As an alternative to making Guido a permanent position we could extend it for an additional year.  Darla, if you're president we'll have to find someone else for this job.
 
Does anyone have anything else?  If so, we should list it in advance.
 
Election of Officers (and Appointment of Staff).  As you know, the slate of nominees is as follows:
 
President:    Darla Kruger
Vice President:   Carl Mami
Treasurer:    Sharon Trembley
Corresponding Secretary: Laura Rico
Recording Secretary:  Dora Buck
 
Of course, nominations may be made from the floor.  Do Carl, Jeannette, JohnO, and Pierre plan to continue in their appointed positions?
 
Board of Directors Meeting
 
 As you know, the Board of Directors will meet at 9:00 a.m. on Monday, May 28, to review the agenda and adopt the budget.  With few items of new business we ought to be able to confine ourselves to agenda the budget and finish in time to convene the Annual Meeting promptly.
 
 If you have any suggestions for the Annual Meeting, let us all know.  My flight leaves on May 22, so you'll have to let us know by no later than Monday, May 21 (preferably earlier).
 
Yours,
 
Byron P. Connell, President
 

DRAFT, 5/13/01, BPC
Proposed Agenda
For the 2001 Annual Meeting of the International Costumers' Guild, Inc., and Concurrent Meeting of its Board of Directors
 
I. Call to Order of the Meeting
 
II. Determination of a Quorum
 A. Members Present
 B. Members Represented by Proxy
 
III. Approval of the Minutes of the 2000 Annual Meeting
 
IV. Reports
 A. Report of the President
 B. Report of the Vice President
 C. Report of the Treasurer
  1. Finance
  2. Membership
  3. Chapters' recognition terminated
 D. Report of the Corresponding Secretary
  1. Correspondence
  2. Public Relations Committee
 E. Report of the Recording Secretary
 F. Report of the Editor, ICG Annual
 G. Report of the Editor, The Costumer's Quarterly
  1. The Editorial Board
  2. Publication and Other Matters
 H. Report of the Archivist
 I. Report of the Parliamentarian
 J. Report of the Webmaster
 K. Report of the Chapter Liaison (Guido)
 L. Report of the Special Committee on ICG Membership
 M. Report of the Fundraising Committee
 
V. Old Business
 
VI.  New Business
 A. Adoption of an ICG Mission Statement
 B. Action to make permanent the position of Chapter Liaison
 
VII.  Selection of Officers
 A. Nominations Made in Advance
 B. Nominations from the Floor
 
VIII. Adjournment of the Annual Meeting of the Members
 
IX.  Election by the Board of Directors of the Officers Selected by the Annual Meeting
 
X.  Any Other Business to Come Before the Board of Directors
 
XI.  Adjournment of the Meeting of the Board of Directors

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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 428 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 5/16/2001
Subject: Re: CGW Representation ...
At 02:58 PM 5/15/01 -0700, you wrote:
>Byron,
>I will be at the annual meeting representing the CGW.
>I believe this will be fine for this meeting despite
>my running for ICG president. Am I correct in that
>presumption, or should I designate someone else as our
>representative?
>
>Darla
>
>_____


As Parliamentarian I see know problem with this. Even if elected, you do
not take office until the current BOD ratifies the election AFTER the end
of the general meeting.

Pierre

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"Those Who Fail To Learn History
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Group: ICG-BOD Message: 429 From: Byron Connell Date: 5/18/2001
Subject: Costume Mafia
Attachments :
    Darla --
     
    Attached is a copy of the letter I am sending to Trudy Leonard asking that the Atlanta group of costumers, which is not a chapter of the ICG, cease use of the phrase, "Costume Mafia," in deference to CGW's prior use of that name.  Unfortunately, I have no means to communicate electronically with Trudy, so my letter will be sent tomorrow by U.S. Mail.  I doubt that she will receive it in time to respond before I leave for Calgary on Tuesday.
     
    I must repeat what I said earlier. The Atlanta group is not an ICG chaptrer.  If an unaffiliated group decides to use a name that is associated with one of our chapter, all we can do is protest, unless the name has been trademarked.
     
    Byron   
    Group: ICG-BOD Message: 430 From: Byron Connell Date: 5/20/2001
    Subject: Fundraising
        As chair (and sole member) of our fundraising committee, Elaine Mami recommends that the ICG undertake sales to members.  The Committee proposes that the ICG order both luggage tags and tape measures with the ICG seal ("Glitziana") imprinted on them.  Round baggage tags, 2.5 " in diameter, with one color imprint, can be purchased at a cost of $0.59 each for 250, or $147.50 total.  Round tape measures, 2" inches in diameter, in yellow, white, or blue with one color imprint, cost $1.58 each for 100, or $158.00 total.  The Committee would seek members who would prepare the artwork for printing at no or low charge.  Additional charges, including shipping and set-up, add a total of $51.00 to each order.  The grand total, therefore, would be about $407.50. 
     
        I believe that the Committee's suggestions are worthy of consideration by the Board and recommend them to you.  One issue that comes to my mind is that of sales taxes.  Would the ICG need to register in each state in which it sells items?  Could we avoid that by selling to our chapters at a fixed price and letting them sell the items to their members at whatever price they set?  (I know that some states exempt from sales tax transactions between divisions of the same firm.)
     
        I hope that the Board will consider the Committee's recommendations following the Annual Meeting and elections.
     
    Byron  
    Group: ICG-BOD Message: 431 From: jeffreysmorris@aol.com Date: 5/20/2001
    Subject: Re: Fundraising
    Question, Byron. Any possibility of adding tote bags to the list? I have
    about six tape measures and countless luggage bags, but....well, to be
    honest, we have about eight tote bags, but the good cloth ones are worth
    their weight in gold.

    JSM/SLCG
    Group: ICG-BOD Message: 432 From: McClure, Kate Date: 5/21/2001
    Subject: Re: ICG Annual Meeting
    Vicki Glover, Lesser Pooh-Bah (aka Vice President) of Beyond Reality will be
    our representative at the meeting. I had been planning on attending, but
    life intervened, so I won't be making it to this year's CC at all. *sniff*


    > Kate McClure
    > Known as StitchWitch
    > May soon be known as Frau Vilda Leusch
    > Grand Pooh-Bah, Beyond Reality Costumer's Guild
    >
    > History never looks like history when you are living through it. - John W.
    > Gardner, 1968
    Group: ICG-BOD Message: 433 From: Darla Kruger Date: 5/21/2001
    Subject: Re: Fundraising
    I highly recommend against tote bags. We tried that
    at Costume College last year. Even though they
    weren't expensive, they were a "higher end" item price
    wise. I am now sitting on two boxes full of bags with
    the Costume College 2000 logo on them. Stick with the
    little stuff, it sells better.


    --- jeffreysmorris@aol.com wrote:
    > Question, Byron. Any possibility of adding tote bags
    > to the list? I have
    > about six tape measures and countless luggage bags,
    > but....well, to be
    > honest, we have about eight tote bags, but the good
    > cloth ones are worth
    > their weight in gold.
    >
    > JSM/SLCG
    >


    =====
    Sincerely,
    Darla Kruger
    Dean, Costume College 2001
    President, Costumer's Guild West

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    Group: ICG-BOD Message: 434 From: randwhit@aol.com Date: 5/21/2001
    Subject: Re: Fundraising
    In a message dated 5/20/01 8:42:41 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
    BP.Connell@worldnet.att.net writes:

    > One issue that comes to my mind is that of sales taxes. Would the ICG need
    > to register in each state in which it sells items? Could we avoid that by
    > selling to our chapters at a fixed price and letting them sell the items to
    > their members at whatever price they set? (I know that some states exempt
    > from sales tax transactions between divisions of the same firm.)

    In general, a company only need pay sales tax on items sold by mail order to
    states where that company has a business presence. The individual ICG
    chapters, however, would probably count as business presences. That said,
    selling items from the home office to the chapters would be wholesale and not
    subject to sales tax. Sales tax responsibility would be incurred when the
    items are then retailed from the chapters to the individual members.

    In some states, including AZ, a nonprofit organization can get a special
    sales tax license as an exempt organization. This not only allows the
    organization to sell fundraiser items without sales tax, but also to buy
    materials without paying sales tax at that end.

    In practice, a small fundraiser like this will be well below the radar of the
    individual states' sales tax organizations. Processing the paperwork would
    cost them way more in employee hours than they would ever collect in taxes.
    The tax license thing is more likely to become an issue if the printing
    companies ask for a taxpayer ID number for their records before agreeing to
    make the items. If that's the case, just fill out the paperwork as an
    individual and pay the sales tax up front.

    As a final comment, I agree that a fundraising activity independent of dues
    and subscriptions is a good idea. We need to build up a war chest for
    unexpected expenses.

    Randall
    Group: ICG-BOD Message: 435 From: jeffreysmorris@aol.com Date: 5/21/2001
    Subject: Re: Fundraising
    In a message dated 5/21/2001 2:52:17 PM Central Daylight Time,
    devinedwk2001@yahoo.com writes:

    << We tried that
    at Costume College last year. Even though they
    weren't expensive, they were a "higher end" item price
    wise. I am now sitting on two boxes full of bags with
    the Costume College 2000 logo on them. Stick with the
    little stuff, it sells better.

    A possible solution to that is to solicit pre-orders through the chapters
    and, if interest is sufficient, sell to order. In addition, I'd have to think
    there might be more interest in a bag with a general ICG logo as opposed to
    one made for a specific event.

    But since you mentioned it, Darla...um...how much for a tote bag? (grin)

    JSM/SLCG
    Group: ICG-BOD Message: 436 From: Byron Connell Date: 5/21/2001
    Subject: Final Presidential Message
    International Costumers' Guild
     
    President's Message
     
    May 20, 2001
     
    Hello, all -
     
     This is my final message as ICG President.  Thank you for letting me serve the Guild in this office for the past three years.
     
     I have enclosed the Agenda for next week's Annual Meeting in Calgary.  I hope to see many of you there.  I want to use my final message as an opportunity to talk about the future of the International Costumers' Guild and what I see as the principal issues we have to address.  It has taken me the whole of my three years as President to recognize them.
     
     The three most pressing issues are:
     
    1. A stagnant or declining membership,
    2. Factionalism among chapters and an unwillingness to work for the good of the entire Guild, and above all,
    3. An absence of a vision for the International Costumers' Guild.
     
    If we had a vision of the ICG, I believe we could overcome the other two problems.
     
     1. Membership.  While I do not have the current count of members in good standing, it is evident that our numbers have not increased.  They may well have declined further from last year's low point.  Certainly, this year saw the loss of two chapters - Portland, which seceded, and South Bay, which apparently dissolved.  From what I have heard, it would not surprise me to see the loss of at least two more chapters in the near future.
     
     At the same time, we have seen no expansion, either in North America or elsewhere.  In North America, there are costumers, but no chapters, in the southeastern U.S., in the mid-west outside the reach of the St. Louis and Chicago chapters, and in Canada east of Alberta.  There are costumers on the European continent.  How do we reach these potential members?
     
     How can our existing chapters build their own memberships and what can the ICG do to assist them?
     
     2. Factionalism.  That's an ugly word, but it exists.  As President, I have seen it all the time, especially among our U.S. chapters, pitting eastern, mid-western, and west coast chapters against each other in destructive ways, not in healthy competition.  At the same time, members of chapters in the rest of the world seem reluctant to take an active hand in running this Guild. In the recent balloting on the Lifetime Achievement Award, for example, there clearly were eastern, midwestern, and west coast U.S. candidates, while no non-North American member of the Board even bothered to vote.  One consequence is that we are not training future leaders of the Guild.
     
     3. Lack of a vision.  That is the problem that underlies everything.  No one cares about the ICG because we have no vision for it.  As a result, chapters politick against one another, membership declines, no efforts are made to develop new chapters, and no one wants to help run the Guild.
     
     But, this is just a hobby, people cry!  Costuming is the hobby, not running the ICG. That's work.  It's essential work, however, in support of our chapters and their members, the advancement of the costuming art, if we believe that the ICG has a role to play in supporting the chapters and advancing the art.  Do we believe that, or do we want the Guild to go away and stop bothering people?  That is a question that the chapters and members must answer in order to know whether or not the International Costumers' Guild has a future.  I ask them to do so.
     
     As a first step in addressing the question of whether or not we ought to continue to exist, the Board of Directors has discussed a mission statement for the ICG.  It will be put to the members at the Annual Meeting next week.  If they adopt it, it will help to shape a vision for the ICG and the work of the Board over the next several years.  The current draft reads as follows:
     
    The International Costumers' Guild, Inc., is an affiliation of amateur, hobbyist, and professional costumers dedicated to the promotion and education of costuming as an art form in all its aspects.  
     
     However, if we agree that the ICG ought to exist, building a vision for it must go beyond a statement of its mission to address the role it ought to play in advancing the art of costuming.  For example, ought the ICG to continue its current role as an overall sponsor of Costume-Con?  That role predates Costume-Con's present constitution and comes from a time when Costume-Con was very much seen as an ICG function.  It no longer is an ICG function.  Perhaps, then, we should repeal the Standing Rules related to it and amend the by-laws to eliminate the requirement that the Annual Meeting be held there.  This is one example of the sought of issues the chapters and members need to address if they want the Guild to continue to exist.  An obvious next question would be, if we cut our ties to Costume-Con, what should we be doing?
     
     I hope that these thoughts will spark consideration and discussion of the role and future of the International Costumers' Guild.  I leave it to my successor to decide how, or whether, to continue this inquiry.
     
    Sincerely,
     
    Byron P. Connell, President
    International Costumers' Guild, Inc.
     

    2001 Annual Meeting,
    International Costumers' Guild, Inc., and Concurrent Meeting of its Board of Directors
    Westin Hotel, Calgary, Alberta, Canada, May 28, 2001
     
    Agenda
     
    I. Call to Order of the Meeting
     
    II. Determination of a Quorum
    A. Members Present
    B. Members Represented by Proxy
     
    III. Approval of the Minutes of the 2000 Annual Meeting
     
    IV. Reports
    A. Report of the President
    B. Report of the Vice President
    C. Report of the Treasurer
    1. Finance
    2. Membership
    3. Chapters' recognition terminated
    D. Report of the Corresponding Secretary
    1. Correspondence
    2. Public Relations Committee
    E. Report of the Recording Secretary
    F. Report of the Editor, ICG Annual
    G. Report of the Editor, The Costumer's Quarterly
    1. The Editorial Board
    2. Publication and Other Matters
    H. Report of the Archivist
    I. Report of the Parliamentarian
    J. Report of the Webmaster
    K. Report of the Chapter Liaison (Guido)
    L. Report of the Special Committee on ICG Membership
    M. Report of the Fundraising Committee
     
    V. Old Business
     
    VI. New Business
    A. Adoption of an ICG Mission Statement
    B. Action to make permanent the position of Chapter Liaison
    C. Amendments to the Standing Rules
     
    VII. Selection of Officers
    A. Nominations Made in Advance
    B. Nominations from the Floor
     
    VIII. Adjournment of the Annual Meeting of the Members
     
    IX. Election by the Board of Directors of the Officers Selected by the Annual Meeting
     
    X. Any Other Business to Come Before the Board of Directors
     
    XI. Adjournment of the Meeting of the Board of Directors
     

    2001 ANNUAL MEETING OF
    THE INTERNATIONAL COSTUMERS' GUILD, INC.
     
    New Business
     
    Be it Moved that the International Costumers' Guild adopt the following statement of its mission:
     
    The International Costumers' Guild, Inc., is an affiliation of amateur, hobbyist, and professional costumers dedicated to the promotion and education of costuming as an art form in all its aspects.
     

    2001 ANNUAL MEETING OF
    THE INTERNATIONAL COSTUMERS' GUILD, INC.
     
    Selection of Officers
     
    The following members in good standing have been nominated for the offices indicated:
     
    President: Darla Kruger (Costumer's Guild West)
    Vice President: Carl Mami (New Jersey/New York Costumers' Guild)
    Treasurer: Sharon Trembley (New Jersey/New York Costumers' Guild)
    Corresponding Secretary: Laura Rico (Costumer's Guild West)
    Recording Secretary: Dora Buck (New Jersey/New York Costumers' Guild)
     
    Members in good standing may make additional nominations from the floor.
     
     
    Group: ICG-BOD Message: 437 From: Byron Connell Date: 5/21/2001
    Subject: My Whereabouts
    We leave for Calgary in the morning.  I will be out of e-mail contact until after the Annual Meeting, at which point you'll want to contact my successor, not me, anyway.
     
    Byron
    Group: ICG-BOD Message: 438 From: bruno@armyofdorkness.org Date: 5/21/2001
    Subject: Re: Fundraising
    Sharon Trembley did alot of research into fundraising ideas when she was
    bidding CC-Las Vegas. I'm sure she still has that information somewhere.

    Michael Bruno
    Group: ICG-BOD Message: 439 From: Dina Flockhart Date: 5/22/2001
    Subject: Re: Fundraising
    Hi Folks,

    Ann Catelli will be representing the Northern Lights at CC19 for the ICG
    BOD meeting. I wish everyone attending a great convention.

    My two cents on the fundraising:
    I did some research into fundraising for CC18, and found decent tote bags
    as low as $1.89 per bag at a minimum order of 75 bags, plus an initial art
    set up of about $50.

    The initial message about tape measures and luggage tags had much higher
    minimum orders - 250 of the item. Isn't that something like 25% of the
    membership?? I think we would be better off with fewer of a higher cost
    item. That is the sales strategy that tends to work well for small niche
    businesses.

    When we were checking into fundraising, the most interest was in the tote
    bags, rather than any other item like a T shirt or key ring.

    I think pre-ordering would be a key to making money on this in any case!!!!

    Yours in Stitches,

    Dina Flockhart
    Cloak & Dagger Creations

    At 02:00 AM 5/22/01 GMT, you wrote:
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    >bidding CC-Las Vegas. I'm sure she still has that information somewhere.
    >
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    Group: ICG-BOD Message: 440 From: Sharon Date: 5/23/2001
    Subject: Re: Fundraising
    Michael Bruno -

    Weren't you keeping track of my ideas? I have so many of them and
    not enough time to write them down... oh well. Actually yahoo
    eliminated the LV clubhouse where they were all being stored.

    The problem was not finding things to sell but there were some
    geographic, incentive and legal concerns making it difficult to come
    up with the 'perfect' fund raiser.

    Geographic - a national or multinational something that all of us can
    use. This does have a possible side angle - if one of the big fabric
    stores allowed the ICG a discount, we could print the ICG membership
    card with the discount code/info on the back. How would this appeal
    to Australians though? Some of the discount books for restaurants
    offer a nice profit but they are very localized. Not even my chapter
    of the ICG is covered by one booK. There's six for New Jersey alone.

    Incentive - What do I get out of selling this? Also the ICG can't
    force anybody to sell anything. I had some specific thoughts for LV,
    but I'm sure the ICG can come up with some perks besides a free
    keychain to the highest seller.

    Legal - I think the ICG doesn't need to worry within the United
    States but if they were to run a specific raffle or 50/50 somewhere
    they may need a license and print the license info on the ticket.


    Since Elaine's initial thought is for something trinket-sized, could
    we kill two birds with one stone and have chapters order enough to
    give all their members? For example, there were some questions asked
    recently about the raising of dues from $1 to $4 at a Pup meeting and
    the value of the difference. If the kennel keepers decided to part
    with the money to buy 1 trinket for each member, and give it to the
    Pup/ICG member, there could be some mutual satisfaction. The ICG has
    now sold something and hopefully made a profit, and the general Pup
    masses think they got something from the ICG (yeah, the chapter paid
    for it, but the ICG's logo on it)

    This would solve some of the problem with the 'I have to see it
    before I buy it' mentality because only a handful of people need to
    initially see the item, individual trinkets being shipped onesie-
    twosie from the ICG Central Whse, and individuals corresponding and
    remitting $2-3 cheques in US dollars to the ICG.

    Along the same lines, I don't have a particular wish on what item I'd
    like to receive from the ICG, but I'd probably be more picky on
    something I'd be buying and going through the trouble of ordering.

    Sharon
    Group: ICG-BOD Message: 442 From: Sharon Date: 5/23/2001
    Subject: Re: ICG Annual Meeting
    I will not be at the annual meeting, but I've designated Carl a while
    ago as the NJ/NY designee because I can't be two people on the BOD.
    He's already a member of the email list as CQ Editor.

    Wayne Carmichael, the Western Canadian chapter treasurer, has
    graciously agreed to fill in with the task of verifying current ICG
    members present in-person or by proxy, and is helping me out by
    getting the numbers to the meeting.

    My files are all in ICG-BOD's file section if you'd like to preview
    them before the meeting.

    Sharon
    Group: ICG-BOD Message: 443 From: Ken Warren Date: 5/23/2001
    Subject: Re: Fundraising
    > For example, there were some questions asked
    > recently about the raising of dues from $1 to $4 at a Pup meeting and
    > the value of the difference.

    The value of the difference is the continued existence of the ICG. No more,
    no less. The dues increase was to support the ICG's annual expenditures and
    eliminate the gap between income and expenses.

    Or at least that's how I feel about it. :-)

    Ken Warren
    Group: ICG-BOD Message: 444 From: ICG WebMaster - John O'Halloran Date: 5/24/2001
    Subject: GHAK - It's that time of year
    Sorry folks, We won't be making CC this year.

    I also don't have a report to present.

    No problems, no issues, no life issues (well the end
    of March was really bad), and the ICG, the Lists and
    the web site just sort of slipped my mind.

    I will get some updates done on Thursday night (at
    least getting Byron's PMs posted) and catching up
    on any other website updates next week.

    JohnO
    Group: ICG-BOD Message: 445 From: ICG WebMaster - John O'Halloran Date: 5/24/2001
    Subject: Re: Reminder - Quarterly Reports are due in 1 mnth
    Which address are you getting errors for?

    JohnO

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    Group: ICG-BOD Message: 446 From: Sharon Date: 5/24/2001
    Subject: Re: Fundraising
    Well Ken, we know that. For the rest of you all, the Pups just
    adjusted their a la carte dues to pass through the extra to the ICG
    so they saw the entire $3 added per person. Since Pup member only is
    on the menu, we have to make the ICG option appear attractive.
    Luckily, they are relatively tolerant and have parted with the extra
    money rather than bailing on the ICG, but I believe there's a raised
    level of expectation.

    I'm not sure if it would be raised in other chapters - I think UK
    would like to see more coming from the U.S. to them, rather than it
    being mostly one-way.

    Sharon


    --- In ICG-BOD@y..., "Ken Warren" <kenw@v...> wrote:
    >
    > The value of the difference is the continued existence of the ICG.
    No more,
    > no less. The dues increase was to support the ICG's annual
    expenditures and
    > eliminate the gap between income and expenses.
    >
    > Or at least that's how I feel about it. :-)
    >
    > Ken Warren
    Group: ICG-BOD Message: 447 From: costumeboss@yahoo.com Date: 5/24/2001
    Subject: CCG representative
    Michele Jaye Solomon will be the official representative of the
    Chicagoland Costumer's Guild
    Carol Mitchell
    Group: ICG-BOD Message: 448 From: bruno@armyofdorkness.org Date: 5/30/2001
    Subject: Re: Fundraising
    Sharon Trembley -

    While I do have a vague recollection of all of the wonderful ideas you
    developed for the CCLV bid 2 years ago, and may even have some notes
    somewhere; I felt that your memory would serve better being as they were
    your ideas. And, as such, I felt that they would be best presented by
    yourself.

    Michael Bruno
    (who's been home from CC for 1.5 hours and is really tired)


    Sharon writes:

    > Michael Bruno -
    >
    > Weren't you keeping track of my ideas? I have so many of them and
    > not enough time to write them down... oh well. Actually yahoo
    > eliminated the LV clubhouse where they were all being stored.
    Group: ICG-BOD Message: 449 From: Byron Connell Date: 6/1/2001
    Subject: Re: Fundraising
    Darla --

    I'll take one, too.

    Byron


    >>> jeffreysmorris@aol.com 05/21/01 09:15PM >>>

    But since you mentioned it, Darla...um...how much for a tote bag? (grin)

    JSM/SLCG
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    Subject: File - mailing-lists.txt
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