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2019-09-22

 

Pierre Pettinger  7:39 AM
from the Parliamentarian: Two motions have been made and seconded in relation to the Guidelines motion. The president should have motion numbers assigned soon. As soon as she announces them, the 15 discussion period on these motions may begin. The main motion on adoption of the new Guidelines is frozen until action on the new motions are completed.

 

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Mera Rose  2 years ago
@Marianne Pease - I move that the parliamentarian be removed and another appointed in his place.  The ethical and advisory capacity of parliamentarians is well established in Robert’s Rules and defined in a corporation to limit any authority including such “enforcement” as is implied in this stated.  (See screenshot 1 below.). Additionally, per our Standing Rules (see screenshot 1 and 2 below), the parliamentarian serves at the pleasure of the president to ADVISE on rules of order per the latest edition of Robert’s Rules of order, not to enforce a perceived timeline as he has outlined which has not been adopted or included in this discussion by a vote of the BoD.  He cannot, in fact, do anything but advise the president and board, and is attempting to force a discussion to take a format of his choosing, running against those already stated timelines that have been previously presented, which would create the appearance of impropriety against impartiality, essentially attempting to subvert, end, or otherwise impair the conversation from occurring.  

 

https://www.parliamentarians.org/about/faq/

 

These are the duties of a parliamentarian and “freezing” debate or discussion (see screenshot 4), while it can be a recommendation, is not an authority that the position offers.  

 

As a parliamentarian with the VADPVA, I would ask the president to look into hiring an independent third party parliamentarian who is not a part of the organization through the National Association of Parliamentarians to continue facilitation of this highly charged discussion, if no other person experienced with Robert’s Rules who is impartial to the discussion can be found from within the corporation.

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Pierre Pettinger  2 years ago
Mera, I posted only because you had not yet acknowledged the motions that had been made. It is part of the Parliamentarian's duties to be sure proper procedure is followed. I rarely speak up unless asked for an opinion. Our Standing Rules for on-line meetings require that a motion that has been seconded is assigned a motion number, beginning the 15 day discussion period. Since both motions I referenced deal directly with the motion to adopt the new guidelines, discussion on that motion must be frozen until both motions are dealt with.

 

Pierre Pettinger  2 years ago
I'm sorry you think I am partisan. Check with everyone who has ever worked with me. I do not render an opinion on anything. I don't even vote when a motion to adjourn is made.

 

Pierre Pettinger  2 years ago
Excuse me, when I referenced you in the first post above. I meant to say President.

 

Pierre Pettinger  2 years ago
And, just to be clear, I am not taking a position on any of these motions.

 

Judy Mitchell  8:58 PM
Folks, I'm letting you know that I'm going to be unavailable for a while so our Northern Lights alternate, Lisa Hunt, will be taking over as Board rep for us. She's already on the list as secretary so she's seen everything going on. I'm off to the wilds of Kentucky.

 

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Jacalyn Boggs  2 years ago
Have a great time at Hoggs Town, Professor Sprig!

 

Mera Rose  2 years ago
I hope it’s a nice relaxing break for you!