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Group: ICG-D Message: 902 From: ICG WebMaster - John O'Halloran Date: 1/26/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 903 From: randwhit@aol.com Date: 1/26/2001
Subject: Re: Spokane memories
Group: ICG-D Message: 904 From: Elaine Mami Date: 1/26/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 905 From: Elaine Mami Date: 1/26/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 906 From: lisa58@juno.com Date: 1/26/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 907 From: Timothy Date: 1/26/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 908 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 1/26/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 909 From: randwhit@aol.com Date: 1/26/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 910 From: randwhit@aol.com Date: 1/26/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 911 From: Michaela de Bruce Date: 1/26/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 912 From: Elaine Mami Date: 1/26/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 913 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Fashion Show
Group: ICG-D Message: 914 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Unfinished pieces
Group: ICG-D Message: 915 From: MicheleSol@aol.com Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Presentations and last minute sewing.
Group: ICG-D Message: 916 From: Cat Devereaux Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Sewing on the Plane
Group: ICG-D Message: 917 From: Stephanie Carrigg Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m
Group: ICG-D Message: 918 From: Nebula5@aol.com Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 919 From: Nebula5@aol.com Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 920 From: Sharon L Sbarsky Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 921 From: Eileen Capes Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 922 From: Byron Connell Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 923 From: Byron Connell Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Presentations and last minute sewing.
Group: ICG-D Message: 924 From: Byron Connell Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing on the Plane
Group: ICG-D Message: 925 From: Byron Connell Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m
Group: ICG-D Message: 926 From: Byron Connell Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 927 From: Jeff & Susan Stringer Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 928 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Wedding stories
Group: ICG-D Message: 929 From: lisa58@juno.com Date: 1/28/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 930 From: lisa58@juno.com Date: 1/28/2001
Subject: Re: costume burn-out
Group: ICG-D Message: 931 From: Elaine Mami Date: 1/28/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 932 From: Jeff & Susan Stringer Date: 1/28/2001
Subject: Post con let down
Group: ICG-D Message: 933 From: Stephanie Carrigg Date: 1/28/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 934 From: mockname@aol.com Date: 1/28/2001
Subject: Sewing at 2 AM
Group: ICG-D Message: 935 From: Byron Connell Date: 1/28/2001
Subject: Re: Post con let down
Group: ICG-D Message: 936 From: MicheleSol@aol.com Date: 1/28/2001
Subject: Re: By the way we got married
Group: ICG-D Message: 937 From: Mary Denise Smith Date: 1/28/2001
Subject: Jean Hunnisett in DC and Newark DE
Group: ICG-D Message: 938 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 1/28/2001
Subject: Re: Post con let down
Group: ICG-D Message: 939 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: Re: Post con let down and stuff
Group: ICG-D Message: 940 From: Byron Connell Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: ICG President's Message for January 2001
Group: ICG-D Message: 941 From: ICG-D@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: File - subscribe.txt
Group: ICG-D Message: 942 From: Alix Jordan Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 943 From: Alix Jordan Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: music and presentation
Group: ICG-D Message: 944 From: Alix Jordan Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 945 From: Timothy Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 946 From: lisa58@juno.com Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: Re: music and presentation
Group: ICG-D Message: 947 From: lisa58@juno.com Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Group: ICG-D Message: 948 From: Stephanie Carrigg Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: Re: music and presentation
Group: ICG-D Message: 949 From: marymorris@aol.com Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: Re: Digest Number 117
Group: ICG-D Message: 950 From: MicheleSol@aol.com Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: Re: Digest Number 117 - Beading workshop
Group: ICG-D Message: 951 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: Re: Post con let down



Group: ICG-D Message: 902 From: ICG WebMaster - John O'Halloran Date: 1/26/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Alix Jordan wrote:
> 25. It is best not to continue the project once the cat decides that
> you
> are still sitting at their night time sleeping area.

26. For the spouces of the 2:00 a.m. Sewer.
Learn to duplicate thier "Are you still on the computer?"
phrase and tone of voice.
They may not be happy to hear it, but it gets the message through.

JohnO - Who had to do it on the eve of his wedding.
Group: ICG-D Message: 903 From: randwhit@aol.com Date: 1/26/2001
Subject: Re: Spokane memories
In a message dated 1/24/01 11:09:24 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
sbarsky@world.std.com writes:

> > Seeing kid leashes for the first time, and hearing my dad wax poetic
> > over them and how he wished they'd been available when my sister and I
> > were young.
> >
> ??? They were available at least 50 years ago. There's a picture of my
> brother in one as a toddler at Brighton Beach, Brooklyn, NY. My brother
> will be 53 in March

Older still. A century and a half at least.

There was a bit in "Silas Marner" about the kid being kept on a length of
scrap fabric tied to Silas' loom.

Then there's the old expression about a grown child "cutting loose from the
apron strings."

Randall
Group: ICG-D Message: 904 From: Elaine Mami Date: 1/26/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
> I remember pulling an all nighter, once. The dress only took a couple
>of hours to make (how long can it take to make a Mucha tube dress); however
>the butterfly applique, on the front, took sixteen hours. I was finishing
>up the butterfly, while my friends were packing my bags, for CC5.


Alix,

I remember that dress. It was lovely. I also still have the sequinned
butterfly aplique you made for me at CC7.

Elaine
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Group: ICG-D Message: 905 From: Elaine Mami Date: 1/26/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
I definately do not take anything unfinished to the con. I'd rather enjoy
the con than spend the whole time in my room sewing.
>
>Bruno
>
AMEN! With what it costs to go to, stay at and shop around a con, why waste
all that money in your room! There are a few times when a small part of a
costume needed work, but I would rather leave it home until the next time.

Elaine
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Group: ICG-D Message: 906 From: lisa58@juno.com Date: 1/26/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
This is actually turning out to be an interesting "thread". I am curious
as to how close deadlines folks work on, and tangentially, how they
"plan" their stage presentations (i.e. what is the thinking on certain
costumes for certain cons and in what time frame?).

I don't do "all-nighters" either, but that's probably because I'm more of
a morning person. Once in a great while, I'll get going on something and
it'll be so engrossing that I'll stay up til 2 am, but that's definitely
my upper limit. As it i, I have to do some night shifts at work, and
they run til 3 am. It takes me a day and a half to recover.

The closest I've come is to be finishing up a costume the day before I
leave for the con. Thatt hasn't happened too often, although earlier
this month, I found myself under pressure to complete the costume pieces
and the airbrush work for our large prop--an 8 1/2 foot tall "standing
stone" for my Arisia presentation with Diane Seiler. I always bring a
few "spares" with me--matching buttons or beads, when I'm working with
airbrushed foam latex, I bring a few small pieces painted to match in
case something tears or completely comes off--hot glue gun, of course,
and basic sewing repair kit. I've never made a costume or costume piece
AT a con. I expect to be able to pack it in advance--but that's probably
just my own compulsiveness talking.

Yours in costuming, Lisa A.


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Group: ICG-D Message: 907 From: Timothy Date: 1/26/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Just wondering, but has anyone ever worked on something while on the plane, or even sitting at the airport?

Do you think the airplane crew or passengers would be adverse to someone using a small battery operated machine at your table on the plane?

Bruno


>AT a con. I expect to be able to pack it in advance--but that's probably
>just my own compulsiveness talking.
>
>Yours in costuming, Lisa A.
Group: ICG-D Message: 908 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 1/26/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Anyone who took the train down to Nolacon in 88(?) will remember me
handsewing the edging around the eyelets in my ball gown. The dress
wasn't in competiton, but it was supposed to be worn for a fancy dinner
at Arnauds and it wasn't done.

It was also the outfit that taught me about sewing velvet and anything
else - the whole think was hand-sewn together, because my sewing machine
was just not up to the task.

During CC5 I spent almost all the time leading up to the Fashion Show in
the room, sewing together the trim for two outfits (Ron Robinson's and
mine). Neither one was done in time, and I never did finish my outfit -
sat through the fashion show crying from the experience.

Last time I used a machine at the con was at CC11, for Agalla, but it
wasn't my costume I was finishing - it was one belonging to a member of
the group. I had approximately 5 minutes of sewing to do for one of the
three costumes I made, then found out that the person hadn't finished
her costume *and* hadn't created her headpiece.

My rule of thumb now is that if it needs machine sewing it stays home.
If it's just a little handsewing, that's okay, as long as I have time to
do the work. And all of this is subject to change depending on how it
will be, costuming with the baby around. Since it took me until just a
couple of days ago to finish her curtains (which I've been planning
since she was -2 months or so), just shy of her 4-month anniversary, I
think I'll be lucky to get new costumes done in time for Costume-Con
this year, assuming we can actually go.

Which reminds me - Lisa, did you check Expedia? Dan found flights for
the three of us (with Erin on my lap) for a lot under 1k, with only one
change, on Continental. I'm hoping to do the taxes in the next week or
so, and will know for sure if we can go to the con once I know how big
our refund will be.

Cheers,

Betsy


Timothy wrote:
>
> Just wondering, but has anyone ever worked on something while on the plane, or even sitting at the airport?
>
> Do you think the airplane crew or passengers would be adverse to someone using a small battery operated machine at your table on the plane?
>
> Bruno

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Group: ICG-D Message: 909 From: randwhit@aol.com Date: 1/26/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
In a message dated 1/26/01 1:17:01 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
icg@costume.org writes:

> 26. For the spouses of the 2:00 a.m. Sewer.


Because of the unfortunate homonym, I prefer "stitcher" or "seamster."

Randall
Group: ICG-D Message: 910 From: randwhit@aol.com Date: 1/26/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
In a message dated 1/26/01 2:21:48 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
plastic@mail.codenet.net writes:

> Do you think the airplane crew or passengers would be adverse to someone
> using a small battery operated machine at your table on the plane?

It would be worth it to freak out the people with the laptop computers.

Randall
Group: ICG-D Message: 911 From: Michaela de Bruce Date: 1/26/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
> Just wondering, but has anyone ever worked on something while on the
plane, or even >sitting at the airport?

I just did this myself for a totally unrelated subject (ie not for a CC).
I went to London for my 25th birthday (ach ye wee springy chickie), and on
the flight there (Dec 30-31st) I was busy applying sequins to a bodice,
stitching down the cording at the neck, attaching lace cuffs to the bodice,
tacking metres of lace to the skirt, adding drapes and fasteners to the
skirt and redoing everything on the final leg of the flight.

The flight attendants were most interested, it was all hand sewing btw, and
I got many compliments on the work.

Of course I still had work to do on the costume while I was there, actually
I 'finished' it in plenty of time in Nijmegen (de Nederlands) for its
official showings in Hamburg and Kopenhavn.

It was the wedding dress from Phantom of the Opera. I did unfortunatly leave
my self-covered buttons at home, likewise the lace that I thought would
detract too much from the original (however it turns out to have been quite
perfect). So it will be 'finished' officially here.

While in Sweden I bought too much fabric also....

As to the original name of this thread. I think I've stayed up til the wee
small hours, but 1am was the latest. Those were only ever when someone
expected me to finish a weeks worth of sewing in two days.

Recovering from flu,
Michaela -who has no local chapter of the costume guild :( ... no Australia
is not *that* close to NZ;)
Group: ICG-D Message: 912 From: Elaine Mami Date: 1/26/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
>Timothy wrote:
> >
> > Just wondering, but has anyone ever worked on something while on the
>plane, or even sitting at the airport?
> >
> > Do you think the airplane crew or passengers would be adverse to someone
>using a small battery operated machine at your table on the plane?
> >
I was on that train to NolaCon, and I remember lots of people sewing. After
all, it WAS a 26-hour trip. Carl had brought a TV & VCR, so there was a
full car of costumers (I think 32?) with masquerades to watch all the way!
Animal even had huge posters to paint on the trip.

Animal is famous for travelling on planes with sewing, too. We flew with
her as she sewed MANY yards of filmy stuff for her Loie Fuller costume for
the historical. However, Animal almost never had a costume finished before
it hit the stage!

Not for me, thanks.

Elaine
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Group: ICG-D Message: 913 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Fashion Show
Okay everyone. The lock-out is over. Anyone can now request a design for
the Costume-Con 19. There are a lot of great designs here and quite a few
could be done quickly.

Please e-mail us directly to request a design. If you plan to enter the
single pattern as well let us know. Both shows will be done together so
there will be logistic challenges; but it can be done!

Pierre and Sandy
Group: ICG-D Message: 914 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Unfinished pieces
I guess we're the "notorious" ones for always finishing at the con! In
fact, Toni Lay's first question when she sees us is, "How many sewing
machines did you bring THIS time?" The worst was ConFrancisco, 1993. My
entire dress was cut out but that's about all when we left home. We drove
(3 days) and worked in the hotels each night. Pierre worked all night the
night before the masquerade, and we put the last bit on in the green room
about 1/2 hour before showtime. That was the last time we'll do anything
that extreme. There was tons of applique and embroidery on that one, and I
had spent most of the time at home doing that, thinking that assembly was
the easiest part - was I every wrong!

We usually have trim, fasteners, etc. to put on along the way. Of course,
we drive to 90 pct. of the cons we go to, so we have lots of time. I can't
sew in the car, and Pierre can, besides he does 99 pct. of the handwork
anyway (I really hate handsewing), and I can drive for longer stretches, so
it works out. We have done stuff on planes, but not much. We have also
postponed things, after the 1993 fiasco. Sometimes it turns into an
emergency design change, if things are seriously not working on the
original idea.

We usually end up scrambling to make the tape the night before we leave,
and designing the presentation by discussion along the way, too. Guess it
works for us!

Sandy

>This is actually turning out to be an interesting "thread". I am curious
>as to how close deadlines folks work on, and tangentially, how they
>"plan" their stage presentations (i.e. what is the thinking on certain
>costumes for certain cons and in what time frame?).
Group: ICG-D Message: 915 From: MicheleSol@aol.com Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Presentations and last minute sewing.
Mary MacPoppins was finished at 6:00 p.m. on Sat. night of Windycon. I had
to be in the greenroom by 7:00. It was my first time in a hoop skirt.

Presentations. Do you remember "Cities of Science Fiction"? from San
Antonio's Worldcon? At 2:30 Sunday afternoon, I saw this extremely tired man
(two hrs. sleep a night the 2 weeks prior to the con) in the dealers room
with a hand full of flyers. He'd made 5 costumes and 4 of his bodies didn't
show up. His tech call was 3:30. I found three of my friends and we showed
up at 3:30 and the said go away and come back at 4:30. We went to his hotel
got pieces of the costumes (I said to bring the masks and shoes) I made us
dinner reservations and at 4:30 we were in the wings of the stage. We
choreographed it while waiting to go on stage. Walked through it once or
twice, (I can't remember) ate dinner got the rest of the costume pieces,
changed (I ended up wearing a black pants slip in my head as a hood, over a
black chemise I'd bought that weekend I was the ninja behind Godzilla) and
met in my room before going to the green room. David Smith (the creator)
stilled needed to paint two things and got permission to leave the greenroom
(we painted outside on the grass) and were on stage somewhere between 8:30 &
9:00 p.m. We took "Most Humorous in the Novice division"

Michele
Group: ICG-D Message: 916 From: Cat Devereaux Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Sewing on the Plane
I remember the time we took over a row of the plane w/ our stuff, but can't
remember which CC. Wendy Purcell had out her beads and was beading an iris
on each shoe... I think mostly so she spent less time thinking about being
in the historical. Kate Morgenstein was working on a twisted historical...
sewing pink flamingos onto her daygo sleeve panes... and attempting to
explain to the stewardess that this was not "exactly" period... and how it
differed. (These were the sleeves to the great LA Tutor.) I just had a
square of stretchy iridescent sequined cloth and a buckram form... Made a
hat on the plane... had to explain to many times how stretching it over the
form work... to get square fabric on round hat with out a dart or two.

Basically, people get REALLLYYYYY BOREDDDDDDDDD on planes... so we're fair
game. If you going to sew, bring fliers!!!!

-Cat-
Group: ICG-D Message: 917 From: Stephanie Carrigg Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m
This is a great thread!
 
I usually live by  the rule of thumb that if it isn't done 3 days before the con then it isn't going.  Do I ever live up to this, most of the time.  But don't ask my fiance this question. He will just tell you that I am a stress case and to leave me alone the week before a con. 
 
Only twice have I had to do any major work at Con. At CC18, for my Fashion Show entry that I made the top during rehearsal.  (With much thanks to Gypsy Ames and Karen Heim for helping me figure out where to cut out the shirt.) The skirt was done pre-con so that wasn't a big deal.  The costume to me was just fun and I wasn't thinking serious for it.
 
At this year's Arisia, I was a stress case till I got into the Green Room. Earlier in the day, I had spent about an hour constructing a column for the presentation.  It was all carpet foam and PVC pipe and I had never worked with it before so I was kinda stressing.  I also had to sew some closures on my costume.
 
Does anyone else find doing the closures on your costume to be the least fun and most tedious, i.e. last part of your costume to be completed?
 
I was such a case cause this costume presentation had two large props (a rock and a column, Yes this year's Arisia's was theme was Large Props.) and was the largest undertaking of a presentation that I had ever done by myself.  I did about 97% of the work myself (with the exeception of some airbrushing and a small scuplted cat head.) Also the presentation was a dramatic one with a critical music cue that if it was not hit at the exactly correct moment that it fail as a presentation. For the other person on stage with me it was his first ever costume presentation, but he has had a lot of theatre experience so he was a very strong presence on stage.  The turn out made me very happy and went over well. It has improved my confidence in myself and I am really content. 
 
Does anyone else ever get post-costume let down?  I had wanted to this presentation for 3 years. I had the idea in my head, now it is over and is a success, i feel satisfied but also drained emotionally and mentally.  Has anyone else had this happen to them?
 
 Just curious.
Stephanie
 
 
Group: ICG-D Message: 918 From: Nebula5@aol.com Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
OK, time to fess up.  We got married last Saturday.  Of course, I waited
until the last minute to start my dress (one week is plenty of time, right?),
and got only 4 hours sleep the night before.  I was sewing until I had to
leave for the ceremony.  My bridesmaids had to finish the hem while I was
getting my makeup and hair done.  But it was finished when I walked down the
aisle!  

We were smart enough to select bridesmaids and groomswomen who are all
costumers; they made their own outfits!

Julie Zetterberg Sardo
=:o
Group: ICG-D Message: 919 From: Nebula5@aol.com Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
In a message dated 1/26/01 7:02:58 PM Pacific Standard Time,
ecmami@hotmail.com writes:


has anyone ever worked on something while on the
>plane, or even sitting at the airport?


I know a costumer who sewed paillettes on a mermaid tail during a flight to
Australia.  Sent shimmering sparkles through the plane whenever the light hit
it!

I believe this was the same trip where the flight crew confiscated her sewing
scissors for the duration of the flight - potential weapon.  It's never
happened to me, but be aware of that possibility if you do plan to sew on the
plane.

JZS
Group: ICG-D Message: 920 From: Sharon L Sbarsky Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 Nebula5@aol.com wrote:

> OK, time to fess up. We got married last Saturday.

Mazel Tov!

Of course, I waited
> until the last minute to start my dress (one week is plenty of time, right?),
> and got only 4 hours sleep the night before. I was sewing until I had to
> leave for the ceremony. My bridesmaids had to finish the hem while I was
> getting my makeup and hair done. But it was finished when I walked down the
> aisle!
>
> We were smart enough to select bridesmaids and groomswomen who are all
> costumers; they made their own outfits!
>
> Julie Zetterberg Sardo
> =:o
>
We want pictures! :-)

Sharon
Group: ICG-D Message: 921 From: Eileen Capes Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Congrats,  I remember the first time I got married I sat at the hairdresser's sewing trim onto my veil while my hair was being done for the wedding.
 
As for the sewing on planes thread, I have sewed in the lounge and in my seat en route to every Costume-Con I have attended.  I usually budget that extra time sitting still into my sewing time.  I confess the sewing I do at con is never budgeted, but always seems to happen anyway.  Fellow passengers have always been fascinated.
 
My biggest en route project was my single pattern entry for CC14(?) in Seattle.  That was the only CC I drove to, and we took a few days to detour through Vancouver and to Vancouver Island to visit families.  In that case I had all my paper pattern pieces drawn out and part of my lining cut out when we left Calgary.  Due to sewing while driving, a disproportionate amount of the outfit was hand-sewn.  In that case I finished the outfit early Sunday morning, put it on and went directly to the green room for the Fashion Show.  I had sewn all night before, mostly hand-sewing pieces together in the bathroom so as not to wake up my husband.  Of course the part he tells everyone about was when I knocked my shears into the bathtub at about 5:00 a.m.  You have to be rooming with someone who really likes you to get past that.
 
Eileen Capes
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 [ We got married last Saturday.  Of course, I waited
until the last minute to start my dress (one week is plenty of time, right?),
and got only 4 hours sleep the night before.  I was sewing until I had to
leave for the ceremony.  My bridesmaids had to finish the hem while I was
getting my makeup and hair done.  But it was finished when I walked down the
aisle! 

Julie Zetterberg Sardo ] 
Group: ICG-D Message: 922 From: Byron Connell Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Michaela --

The dress sounds wonderful.

BTW, you can join any ICG chapter, you know, even if it's nowhere near your
home. Most chapters have non-local members, although any chapter that
included you probably would set a record for long-distance members! Check
some of their web sites and see if any seem sympatico - - you can reach them
from the ICG's, www.costume.org

The alternative is to start a chapter in New Zealand -- we'd love to see
one. (I say that officially.) All you need is five other interested
persons. They don't even have to be active as makers of costume if they
enjoy participating in costumed events, like to look at costumes, are
interested in costume from historical or other perspectives, and so forth.

Byron


-----Original Message-----
From: Michaela de Bruce <thebruce@ihug.co.nz>
To: ICG-D@yahoogroups.com <ICG-D@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, January 26, 2001 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [ICG-D] Sewing at 2:00 a.m.


>> Just wondering, but has anyone ever worked on something while on the
>plane, or even >sitting at the airport?
>
>I just did this myself for a totally unrelated subject (ie not for a CC).
>I went to London for my 25th birthday (ach ye wee springy chickie), and on
>the flight there (Dec 30-31st) I was busy applying sequins to a bodice,
>stitching down the cording at the neck, attaching lace cuffs to the bodice,
>tacking metres of lace to the skirt, adding drapes and fasteners to the
>skirt and redoing everything on the final leg of the flight.
>
>The flight attendants were most interested, it was all hand sewing btw, and
>I got many compliments on the work.
>
>Of course I still had work to do on the costume while I was there, actually
>I 'finished' it in plenty of time in Nijmegen (de Nederlands) for its
>official showings in Hamburg and Kopenhavn.
>
>It was the wedding dress from Phantom of the Opera. I did unfortunatly
leave
>my self-covered buttons at home, likewise the lace that I thought would
>detract too much from the original (however it turns out to have been quite
>perfect). So it will be 'finished' officially here.
>
>While in Sweden I bought too much fabric also....
>
>As to the original name of this thread. I think I've stayed up til the wee
>small hours, but 1am was the latest. Those were only ever when someone
>expected me to finish a weeks worth of sewing in two days.
>
>Recovering from flu,
>Michaela -who has no local chapter of the costume guild :( ... no Australia
>is not *that* close to NZ;)
Group: ICG-D Message: 923 From: Byron Connell Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Presentations and last minute sewing.
I remember that one. (I was one of the judges.) It was a delight.

Byron


-----Original Message-----
From: MicheleSol@aol.com <MicheleSol@aol.com>
To: ICG-D@yahoogroups.com <ICG-D@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, January 27, 2001 2:08 AM
Subject: [ICG-D] Presentations and last minute sewing.
>
>Presentations. Do you remember "Cities of Science Fiction"? from San
>Antonio's Worldcon? At 2:30 Sunday afternoon, I saw this extremely tired
man
>(two hrs. sleep a night the 2 weeks prior to the con) in the dealers room
>with a hand full of flyers. He'd made 5 costumes and 4 of his bodies
didn't
>show up. His tech call was 3:30. I found three of my friends and we
showed
>up at 3:30 and the said go away and come back at 4:30. We went to his
hotel
>got pieces of the costumes (I said to bring the masks and shoes) I made us
>dinner reservations and at 4:30 we were in the wings of the stage. We
>choreographed it while waiting to go on stage. Walked through it once or
>twice, (I can't remember) ate dinner got the rest of the costume pieces,
>changed (I ended up wearing a black pants slip in my head as a hood, over a
>black chemise I'd bought that weekend I was the ninja behind Godzilla) and
>met in my room before going to the green room. David Smith (the creator)
>stilled needed to paint two things and got permission to leave the
greenroom
>(we painted outside on the grass) and were on stage somewhere between 8:30
&
>9:00 p.m. We took "Most Humorous in the Novice division"
>
>Michele
Group: ICG-D Message: 924 From: Byron Connell Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing on the Plane
That was CC 13 in Toronto. I remember Kate's "thing" <all> too well! It
also was Wendy's only CC (to date) -- she took Best in Show in the
Historical, as I recall, with an incredible reproduction of a Worth gown --
instant Master, and well-deserved.

Byron


-----Original Message-----
From: Cat Devereaux <CatDevereaux@AlleyCatScratch.com>
To: ICG-D@yahoogroups.com <ICG-D@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, January 27, 2001 2:34 AM
Subject: [ICG-D] Sewing on the Plane


>I remember the time we took over a row of the plane w/ our stuff, but can't
>remember which CC. Wendy Purcell had out her beads and was beading an iris
>on each shoe... I think mostly so she spent less time thinking about being
>in the historical. Kate Morgenstein was working on a twisted historical...
>sewing pink flamingos onto her daygo sleeve panes... and attempting to
>explain to the stewardess that this was not "exactly" period... and how it
>differed. (These were the sleeves to the great LA Tutor.) I just had a
>square of stretchy iridescent sequined cloth and a buckram form... Made a
>hat on the plane... had to explain to many times how stretching it over the
>form work... to get square fabric on round hat with out a dart or two.
>
>Basically, people get REALLLYYYYY BOREDDDDDDDDD on planes... so we're fair
>game. If you going to sew, bring fliers!!!!
>
>-Cat-
Group: ICG-D Message: 925 From: Byron Connell Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m
Steph didn't mention that she took a major award in Master.  The presentation was stunning -- perfect timing!
 
Byron
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephanie Carrigg <boomboom@shore.net>
To: ICG-D@yahoogroups.com <ICG-D@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, January 27, 2001 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: [ICG-D] Sewing at 2:00 a.m

This is a great thread!
 
I usually live by  the rule of thumb that if it isn't done 3 days before the con then it isn't going.  Do I ever live up to this, most of the time.  But don't ask my fiance this question. He will just tell you that I am a stress case and to leave me alone the week before a con. 
 
At this year's Arisia, I was a stress case till I got into the Green Room. Earlier in the day, I had spent about an hour constructing a column for the presentation.  It was all carpet foam and PVC pipe and I had never worked with it before so I was kinda stressing.  I also had to sew some closures on my costume.
 
Does anyone else find doing the closures on your costume to be the least fun and most tedious, i.e. last part of your costume to be completed?
 
I was such a case cause this costume presentation had two large props (a rock and a column, Yes this year's Arisia's was theme was Large Props.) and was the largest undertaking of a presentation that I had ever done by myself.  I did about 97% of the work myself (with the exeception of some airbrushing and a small scuplted cat head.) Also the presentation was a dramatic one with a critical music cue that if it was not hit at the exactly correct moment that it fail as a presentation. For the other person on stage with me it was his first ever costume presentation, but he has had a lot of theatre experience so he was a very strong presence on stage.  The turn out made me very happy and went over well. It has improved my confidence in myself and I am really content. 
 
Does anyone else ever get post-costume let down?  I had wanted to this presentation for 3 years. I had the idea in my head, now it is over and is a success, i feel satisfied but also drained emotionally and mentally.  Has anyone else had this happen to them?
 
 Just curious.
Stephanie
Group: ICG-D Message: 926 From: Byron Connell Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
CONGRATULATIONS!!!
 
You sound like Tina; she was sewing on her wedding dress until she went out the door, too.  (That was in 1966.)
 
Byron
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Nebula5@aol.com <Nebula5@aol.com>
To: ICG-D@yahoogroups.com <ICG-D@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, January 27, 2001 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [ICG-D] Sewing at 2:00 a.m.

OK, time to fess up.  We got married last Saturday.  Of course, I waited
until the last minute to start my dress (one week is plenty of time, right?),
and got only 4 hours sleep the night before.  I was sewing until I had to
leave for the ceremony.  My bridesmaids had to finish the hem while I was
getting my makeup and hair done.  But it was finished when I walked down the
aisle!  

We were smart enough to select bridesmaids and groomswomen who are all
costumers; they made their own outfits!

Julie Zetterberg Sardo
Group: ICG-D Message: 927 From: Jeff & Susan Stringer Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
> AMEN! With what it costs to go to, stay at and shop around a con, why
waste
> all that money in your room! There are a few times when a small part of a
> costume needed work, but I would rather leave it home until the next time.

I remimber an Atlanta Fantacy Fair many years ago when we had 24 people on
stage doing the X-Men vs the Hellfire club. When we arrived, our outfits
were done, but our buddy had not completed the ones he was supposed to make.
Some were not even STARTED! He spent two days locked in his room surrounded
by lackies sewing costumes. We all hit our marks for the masquerade and
took BIS, but was it worth missing the entire con? - BTW - AFF used to give
free memberships to every member of the winning Masquerade presentation.
After our group won, and they had to shell out 25 (one was for our stage
manager), they cut that back to just TWO free memberships, regardless of
number in the group.

More recently, Jeff & I had trouble getting our Toy Story Costumes done in
time for Dragon. I was pulling a lot of late nights but not making a lot of
headway. A friend suggested the "Dormatory Friend" of Blue Drexorals. They
are a Non-Drowsy cold medicine that works like a pot of strong coffee. For
me, it hit like a shot of Speed. I was up till 3 am happily painting pink
polka dots on Bo-Peeps dress when my dearest beloved came and dragged me
away to bed. I didn't get any sleep for over a week before the convention,
but at least the costumes were finished.

This month, I was working on an outfit for Chattacon. I had thought it was
the THIRD weekend in January, but it was only the 2nd. About Wednesday, I
realized that I couldn't finish the costume to what I would consider a
wearable outfit and put it down. By Dragon, it'll kick butt, if I ever get
started on it again! ;-)

Hugs,
Susan
Group: ICG-D Message: 928 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 1/27/2001
Subject: Re: Wedding stories
Congratulations! Wish we could have been there!

Our wedding story isn't ours - it was our friends Deborah and Joel. First,
you have to understand that this family (together and individually)
regularly runs anywhere from one hour to one week late for everything.

First, bride's mother insisted on making EVERYTHING - cake, reception food,
wedding dress, bridesmaids dresses, etc., etc. They couldn't find the
fabric in colors they wanted, so they DYED everything. Six different
pastels for the attendants, and a certain shade of candlelight for the
wedding gown. Pierre's sister was one of the bridesmaids, and she and Mom
put their foot down and said they were making her gown. Good thing,
too. This was to be a full dinner reception - bride is Methodist, groom is
Jewish (but not Orthodox), ceremony performed by bride's father - Methodist
minister, incorporating some Jewish traditions.

While the groom isn't Orthodox, much of his family is, so the entire dinner
had to be kosher. I was the "personal attendant" (gofer). After the
rehearsal, we asked if they needed any help that night to get stuff
done. They said no, so we left. The next day, we got to the B&B about 3
hours before the time for the wedding. Good thing, too. I proceeded to
decorate at least 3 bridesmaid's hats, and hem one of the bridesmaid's
dresses (while she was trying it on). The bride's mother was still
assembling the wedding dress. After inserting a sleeve backwards twice
before getting it right the third time, we told her to take a
break. Deborah stood there in the dress, and we drafted about 8 people
(including the bride's two brothers who didn't sew at all), parked them
around the train, and had them baste on the lace motifs. Then as we were
leaving for the hall, the infamous sleeve split at the shoulder (after 3
sergings, there was no more allowance left). Pierre grabs needle and
thread and sews her back into it. The wedding started two hours late. Not
bad for that family.

BTW, this was at least 10 years ago, they are still happily married, and
the family still runs on the same scheduling.

Sandy

>OK, time to fess up. We got married last Saturday. Of course, I waited
>until the last minute to start my dress (one week is plenty of time, right?),
>and got only 4 hours sleep the night before. I was sewing until I had to
>leave for the ceremony. My bridesmaids had to finish the hem while I was
>getting my makeup and hair done. But it was finished when I walked down the
>aisle!
Group: ICG-D Message: 929 From: lisa58@juno.com Date: 1/28/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
I work on stuff all t he time while travelling--I have cross-stitch,
embroidery and beadwork travelling set-ups. With many of my costumes, I
start the beadwork almost a year in advance of the major construction,
because it so labor intensive. If you're only working with a half-dozen
colors, it's easy, but my latest projects have included more than 20
different types of beads and colors. I have special foam-lined separator
cases that I use, with extra needles and threads. I get it right out at
on the tray-tables.

As Betsy says, handsewing is great for long plane trips. You can just do
it in your lap and it's very soothing. I've worked on baby clothes on
planes, and hemmed stuff and attached bindings, and hand-sewed eyelet
holes. People are always quite interested, esp. with colorful fabric.

Yours in costuming, Lisa A.
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Group: ICG-D Message: 930 From: lisa58@juno.com Date: 1/28/2001
Subject: Re: costume burn-out
I get costume burn-out, although I don't really think about it that way.
My costumes are always completed before the con and can actually be
packed carefully. If I'm working on stuff on the trip, it's for the NEXT
costume. My happiest moment (one of them, anyway) is cleaning up and
vacuuming the sorkroom when a project is complete.

Anyway. I usually come home from a Costume Con quite sulky, and I'll
sulk for a week, over how talented these people are, and feeling that I
don't belong with them (regardless of how well my costumes and entries
did). Occasionally these sulky fits pan out into great costumes, such as
the "House Dress", which was conceived in the week after returning fron
CC in Lincoln Nebraska.

I used to get quite stressed as the costume presentation drew near, as
Stephanie mentions. But I've learned over time, that my best way to cope
with it is to do everything I can think of to make it a good costume in
advance, and rehearse til I can go on Autopilot.
Once it's over, I enjoy the glow. But I, too, feel a lingering sense of
being emotionally drained. Right now, after the "Standing Stone" costume
(an Arisia "large prop" presentation), I'm using that energy to get some
new jewelry created, and work on a quilt I started.

And I have a historical that I actually started over 5 years ago that I
want to make--I'll be damned if I'll waste $200 worth of cotton velvet!

Yours in costuming, Lisa A.

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Group: ICG-D Message: 931 From: Elaine Mami Date: 1/28/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
>
>OK, time to fess up. We got married last Saturday. >Julie Zetterberg
>Sardo
>=:o

Julie,

Congratulations! Hugs & kisses,

Elaine & Carl

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Group: ICG-D Message: 932 From: Jeff & Susan Stringer Date: 1/28/2001
Subject: Post con let down
>Does anyone else ever get post-costume let down?  I had wanted to this presentation for 3 years. I had >the idea in my head, now it is over and is a success, I feel satisfied but also drained emotionally and >mentally.  Has anyone else had this happen to them?
 
Ghod Yes!  Jeff wanted to do Planet of the Apes for 20 years!  We FINALLY got around to doing it last summer for Dragon.  Everything went WRONG.  As most do, I put off working on them until the last couple of weeks before the con. Then we got this phone call from the DragonCon Staff.  It seems that a video documentary team is putting together a piece on "Why do people go to SF cons" using Dragon as thier venue.  They wanted to do segments on writers, gamers, artists, robot wars lovers, and yes, costumers. 
 
They wanted Jeff & I to be the Costumer subjects and let a camera crew follow us around at the con and answer lots of questions for the documentary.  Naturally, we were so flattered to be asked that we jumped on it.  Then we found out that they wanted to bring cameras to our house to film background information just days before the convention and wanted to tape us actually working on the project.  Well, naturally, it wasn't done, so we stopped sewing and cleaned house for a few days.  Then we spent about 6 hours entertaining the film crew.  This got us behind schedule and I had to pull some all nighters to get done. 
 
When we arrived at the con, we found out there had been trouble with the project.  It seems the Atlanta Hyatt wanted a "Site Fee" of over $10,000 to shoot a professional presentation inside their hotel.  That was WAY out of budget.  So the five camera crews (one for each target group) was cut to ONE crew to cover everyone and they had to be sneaky.  We kept trying to catch the crew to get the shots of us finishing up our masks, but couldn't connect.  We spent most of Saturday afternoon in our room finishing up paint jobs and applying hair.  When we got to the green room, the camera crew arrived and was actually annoyed that we had finished everything and had nothing left for them to film except putting on nail polish and brushing and spraying hair.
 
The show started an hour and a half LATE, then ran for over an hour.  We were the last group on stage.  Guess what?  Our tape screwed up.  Jeff was dressed as General Ursus doing the very dramatic "Only good human is a dead human" speach to - NOTHING.  It was Mime Phantom of the Opera time for us all over again!  It seems that whenever our tape is most important to the presentation, THAT's exactly when it goofs up.  We left the stage crest fallen and pissed.  As we went slumping back to our chairs, here came those damned cameras!  Jeff told them to stick a fork in us, we were done.  Forget it, we just lost.  We also told the camera folks to take a Hike because it would take 30 minutes to an hour for the judges to come back and anounce the winners.  I don't know where they went.  We started pulling off masks and packing up while thanking our friends for helping us out in the skit.  The next think I knew people where calling our names and waving frantically for us to come back to the stage.  We got out there and they handed us an envelope marked "Best in Show, Master Class".  We were shocked.  We went back stage and showed our friends, but the cameras were gone.  We threw up our hands and said that it was either a Mercy Prize because we finished our skit with no sound, OR it was Rigged for the cameras, OR we were the only contestants entered as Master Class because we sure didn't deserve a prize.
 
TWENTY YEARS Jeff waited to do General Ursus and his moment of glory was stolen from him.  Sometimes, costuming sucks.  Will we do it again next year?  You bet your britches we'll be there.
 
Hugs,
Susan
Group: ICG-D Message: 933 From: Stephanie Carrigg Date: 1/28/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
> I work on stuff all t he time while travelling--I have cross-stitch,
> embroidery and beadwork travelling set-ups. With many of my >costumes, I
start the beadwork almost a year in advance of the major >construction,
because it so labor intensive.
So that's how you do it... I thought you had a secret staff of gnomes in
your basement helping you...*grin*
I was always bewildered at how you had all this incredible beadwork for each
new costume at each con.
So here goes Stephanie shaking her head at how silly I am for not thinking
of this...
Lisa coudl you go int more detail about your travel set ups for beadwork. I
am going to Chicago in March and would like to bring some fun stuff for the
plane ride (or I suppose I could play games on my new Palm Pilot, I love new
gadgets..)
Stephanie

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Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [ICG-D] Sewing at 2:00 a.m.


> I work on stuff all t he time while travelling--I have cross-stitch,
> embroidery and beadwork travelling set-ups. With many of my costumes, I
> start the beadwork almost a year in advance of the major construction,
> because it so labor intensive. If you're only working with a half-dozen
> colors, it's easy, but my latest projects have included more than 20
> different types of beads and colors. I have special foam-lined separator
> cases that I use, with extra needles and threads. I get it right out at
> on the tray-tables.
>
> As Betsy says, handsewing is great for long plane trips. You can just do
> it in your lap and it's very soothing. I've worked on baby clothes on
> planes, and hemmed stuff and attached bindings, and hand-sewed eyelet
> holes. People are always quite interested, esp. with colorful fabric.
>
> Yours in costuming, Lisa A.
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Group: ICG-D Message: 934 From: mockname@aol.com Date: 1/28/2001
Subject: Sewing at 2 AM
In a message dated 01/28/2001 9:01:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,
ICG-D@yahoogroups.com writes:

> My bridesmaids had to finish the hem while I was
> getting my makeup and hair done. But it was finished when I walked down
the
>
> aisle!

Many, many years ago when I go married, my sister made my wedding dress and
bridesmaid gowns. Katherine Kurtz performed the ceremony. One hour before
the ceremony she was sitting in my living room helping my sister finish my
gown for me!!

Laura Syms
Group: ICG-D Message: 935 From: Byron Connell Date: 1/28/2001
Subject: Re: Post con let down
Susan --
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Good judges don't fault the costumer for tech's screw up.  Looks like you had good judges.  Congratulations.
 
Byron
 
 
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From: Jeff & Susan Stringer <Stringer@cdc.net>
To: ICG-D@yahoogroups.com <ICG-D@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, January 28, 2001 12:40 PM
Subject: [ICG-D] Post con let down
 
Ghod Yes!  Jeff wanted to do Planet of the Apes for 20 years!  We FINALLY got around to doing it last summer for Dragon.  Everything went WRONG. 
 
The show started an hour and a half LATE, then ran for over an hour.  We were the last group on stage.  Guess what?  Our tape screwed up.  Jeff was dressed as General Ursus doing the very dramatic "Only good human is a dead human" speach to - NOTHING.  It was Mime Phantom of the Opera time for us all over again!  It seems that whenever our tape is most important to the presentation, THAT's exactly when it goofs up.  We left the stage crest fallen and pissed.  As we went slumping back to our chairs, here came those damned cameras!  Jeff told them to stick a fork in us, we were done.  Forget it, we just lost.  We also told the camera folks to take a Hike because it would take 30 minutes to an hour for the judges to come back and anounce the winners.  I don't know where they went.  We started pulling off masks and packing up while thanking our friends for helping us out in the skit.  The next think I knew people where calling our names and waving frantically for us to come back to the stage.  We got out there and they handed us an envelope marked "Best in Show, Master Class".  We were shocked.  We went back stage and showed our friends, but the cameras were gone.  We threw up our hands and said that it was either a Mercy Prize because we finished our skit with no sound, OR it was Rigged for the cameras, OR we were the only contestants entered as Master Class because we sure didn't deserve a prize.
 
TWENTY YEARS Jeff waited to do General Ursus and his moment of glory was stolen from him.  Sometimes, costuming sucks.  Will we do it again next year?  You bet your britches we'll be there.
 
Hugs,
Susan
Group: ICG-D Message: 936 From: MicheleSol@aol.com Date: 1/28/2001
Subject: Re: By the way we got married
Congrats!!!!

Michele
Group: ICG-D Message: 937 From: Mary Denise Smith Date: 1/28/2001
Subject: Jean Hunnisett in DC and Newark DE
Greetings fellow costumers,

Jean Hunnisett is wrapping up her US tour with
stops in Washington DC on January 31 and in Newark
DE February 2 and 4.

Her lectures in DC and Newark are "The Making of a
Queen: Elizabeth R" with receptions and book
signings to follow.

The workshop in Newark is "Ruffs & Supportasses
1580 - 1620". In this workshop, Jean provides a
wealth of pictorial background for ruffs large and
small. Then she discusses supportasses (the wire
understructure that holds the things up), and
demonstrates the making of a simple one. The bulk
of the workshop is given to the making of ruffs.

The lectures are $20, the ruff workshop is $75
(with a breakfast/lunch ticket an additional $10).

This may be your last chance to hear Jean speak in
the US, as she has said she won't tour again for a
while. How long is a while? I don't know, but she
is 71.

To purchase tickets, please go to
www.costumemag.com and fill in the order form.
Please use the form and email it in even if you
are mailing a check.

Thanks, and enjoy Jean's appearances!

Mary Denise Smith
Costume & Dressmaker Press
Group: ICG-D Message: 938 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 1/28/2001
Subject: Re: Post con let down
We did our first costume from M.A.R. Barker's gaming universe for the 1986
Worldcon, "The Lords of Stability". We then wanted to do the other half of
the pantheon, "The Lords of Chaos", but could never seem to get the bodies
together and then get the costumes done on time. We originally wanted to
do the Chaos lords at Winnipeg in 1994, but first a couple of the people
couldn't go, then it became painfully obvious that the costumes weren't
going to get done either (well, they could be done, but not to the
standards we wanted them). They were loose-fitting enough that if they had
been done, we could have recruited bodies.

We finally got everything together at Worldcon in 1997 at San Antonio. The
costumes had changed somewhat from their original designs, but the extra
time let us refine the ideas. We still had to draft someone at the last
minute, because the person originally going to wear one of them hadn't
realized the Masquerade was on Saturday, and they could only stay thru
Friday. We got a lot more help from great people (two made their own
costumes from our designs, thanks Lisa and Bridget) than we had the first
time in 1986.

It was such a relief to finally be able to complete the cycle. Not
burn-out exactly, just a sense of completion. We have a few other ideas
we've been tossing around (some since 1984) so hopefully they'll get
realized someday too.

P & S

> >Does anyone else ever get post-costume let down? I had wanted to this
> presentation for 3 years. I had >the idea in my head, now it is over and
> is a success, I feel satisfied but also drained emotionally
> and >mentally. Has anyone else had this happen to them?
Group: ICG-D Message: 939 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: Re: Post con let down and stuff
Julie! About time, too! Congratulations!!!

I think I've been suffering from burnout since CCXV! (Still recovering,
too...) I've had designs started but not finished for the folio, plans
for entering costumes that got started but not finished, and even a set
of dolls that were supposed to show up at the last CC - only one of
which is even close to done.

I have managed to finish the curtains for Erin's room, though, and
considering that I've been meaning to make them since three months
before she was born, I think I'm doing pretty well that I made it over a
week before her fourth month anniversary!

About sewing for weddings - people have asked me several times, and I've
refused all but one - my friend, who asked me to be a bridesmaid. We
went shopping in one of those bridal barns for dresses, and either she
or I hated everything we saw there. Colors weren't right, styles weren't
right. Then Laurie told me she was getting married barefoot. And to make
things more interesting, her husband didn't have any honor attendants at
all - and was likely not to wear a tie...

...and that was the last straw - I had no interest in purchasing a $100
dress if the bride wasn't going to take the event that seriously. So...
I offered to make the dresses for us (four bridesmaids in all).

I managed to pull it off, and made something I've worn since, but two of
the bridesmaids lived elsewhere (CA and MA), and we had a range of sizes
from 6 through 18, only one of which didn't need adjusting for height.
I'm thinking I'm not likely to do that again.

My dress? The story is on our web site (http://www.hawkeswood.com/) on
Our Pages. It's too long to relate here.

Cheers,

Betsy

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Group: ICG-D Message: 940 From: Byron Connell Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: ICG President's Message for January 2001
International Costumers' Guild

President's Message

January 28, 2001

Hello, everyone --

I hope that you all had a great holiday season and have
settled in to the 21st century. In my first President's Message of
this millennium, there are just a few things I want to talk about.

ICG Annual Dues

On January 3, after extended discussion, the Board of
Directors voted to amend Standing Rule 3 to increase the ICG's
annual membership dues from $1.00 U.S. per year to $4.00 U.S.
per year. The Board did do because it had become clear that,
even with stringent controls on expenditures, revenues were
unable to keep up with our costs.

This is the first raise in membership dues in our history.
The ICG dues of $1.00 U.S. per year was set 17 years ago, in
1983. The increase will help to meet the increased costs over the
past 17 years of such essentials as postage and supplies. It also
will help put the Corporation in a stronger position to serve its
members and chapters better.

One of the principal reasons the ICG exists is to provide
services to local costuming guilds that have affiliated themselves
as ICG chapters. We provide a tax-exempt umbrella for chapters
in the U.S. that wish to make use of it. We discussed and agreed
on the Guidelines for International-Level Masquerades and
Competitions to aid masquerade directors and costumers
interested in competition. The new ICG Annual is another
example of a central service the ICG provides. A committee is
working on model masquerade forms that directors of costume
competitions will be able to adopt and to adapt to their special
circumstances. A major central service is the Patrick M. Kennedy
Memorial Archive, one of the finest collections of photos and
videotapes of costumes and competitions in North America. We
are digitizing the collection in order to make it available on CD
-ROMs and plan to distribute copies to chapters.

Beyond that, the new dues level will give the ICG a bit
of flexibility -- not a lot -- to meet new needs identified by chapters.
We look forward to doing so.

Costumer's Quarterly Subscription Rate

The Board also voted on January 3 to amend Standing
Rule 23 to increase the subscription rate to The Costumer's
Quarterly from $8.00 U.S. to $18.00 U.S., for members with U.S.
mailing addresses. The new rates went into effect for new and
renewal subscriptions on and after January 7, 2001. Members
outside the U.S. will continue to pay subscription rates set by the
Australian Costumers' Guild, Costume Guild UK, or the Western
Canadian Costumers' Guild, respectively. The Board's action did
not affect those subscriptions.

The Costumer's Quarterly has been one of the most
important services the ICG provides. Yes, publication has been
spotty over the years. However, it is not the only journal published
by volunteer members of a not-for-profit organization for which that
is true. The new subscription rate means that we will be able to
publish regularly. The old price per U.S. member, $8.00 per year,
came nowhere near the cost of printing and mailing. The ICG
cannot afford to subsidize that cost from dues revenues; the
Quarterly must be self-sufficient. The new subscription rate,
$18.00 per year, will permit it to meet its direct costs. Fortunately,
we do not have to pay for articles, editorial services, or equipment,
or the price would have to be much higher.

The Costumer's Quarterly is the only non-commercial
journal devoted exclusively to costuming. In line with the current
interests of members and chapters, issues will continue to contain
a mix of articles about costume and costuming, news of the ICG
and the chapters and the Guild as a whole, and notices of coming
events and attractions. Recently, it was suggested that we
publish classified ads for members. We are determined to publish
the Quarterly regularly, four times a year, if members and chapters
submit articles for publication. You may recall that my last
message included a list of more than a dozen articles that
members had agreed to write. I trust that they're working on them
actively and that we will see the fruits of their efforts over the
course of the next year or so. I hope you will subscribe.

Chapter Obligations

One of the few obligations that chapters have to the
ICG is to send us their lists of officers and members annually, with
quarterly updates.

Chapter Reports. Please remember that the Standing
Rules provide that each chapter must annually send the
Corporation Treasurer its list of officers' names, addresses and,
where available, telephone numbers and e-mail addresses,
together with the complete list of its members in good standing
(including name, address, telephone number where available, and
whether or not the member subscribes to the Quarterly). Each
quarter, each chapter must send the names, etc., of new members
and any updates to the list of officers or to members' addresses
and phone numbers.

At the same time as the annual report, each chapter
must remit ICG dues. Please make checks payable to
International Costumers' Guild.

The due dates for these reports each year are: January
7, April 6, July 6, and October 6. Chapters' annual lists and dues
payments were due on January 7. I have asked our Treasurer,
Sharon Trembley, to send receipt to chapters when their reports
arrive and to send reminders early next month to the presidents
and treasurers of delinquent chapters. If you have not yet
complied, please send your chapter's annual list of members and
officers and your dues to:

Sharon Trembley, Treasurer
International Costumers' Guild, Inc.
398 Prospect Street
South Amboy, NJ 08879-1942 USA

The format that we need chapters to use in sending Sharon the
information is posted on the ICG web site: www.costume.org

"Guido," our Chapter Liaison, will be in contact with
chapters that have not met their obligation.

The next report date for chapters is April 6, when
chapters should send Sharon an update report on changes in
members' addresses and the names and addresses of new
members.

ICG-T. As an additional avenue of communication for
chapter treasurers and the ICG Treasurer, JohnO has set up a
new discussion list on which they may discuss their mutual
concerns. The list is known as ICG-T. A number of chapter
treasurers have already joined it. I encourage other treasurers to
join. Chapter treasurers may do so by contacting John at
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name and local chapter to John at ICG-T-owner@egroups.com


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bconnell@mail.nysed.gov (work) or at
BP.Connell@worldnet.att.net (home), or by regular post at 50
Dove Street, Albany, NY 12210-1811 USA.

Sincerely,

Byron P. Connell, President
International Costumers' Guild
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Group: ICG-D Message: 942 From: Alix Jordan Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Dear Elaine:

However, Animal almost never had a costume finished before
>it hit the stage!
>
You can faint now. At one of the Ad Astras, in Toronto, Animal was
doing the "Witch of November", and she did get it finished well before the
masquerade. In fact, apparently all she had to do, at the con, was build
this tiny cardboard, and tin foil boat, which took about half an hour, if
that. She spent the rest of the time wandering around going: "I'm bored!
I'm bored! I'm so bored!"

In the really weird department, the radio has just started playing "The
Wreck of the Edmond Fitzgerald", as I type this letter.

Peace
Alixandra
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Group: ICG-D Message: 943 From: Alix Jordan Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: music and presentation
Dear Sandy:

>We usually end up scrambling to make the tape the night before we leave,
>and designing the presentation by discussion along the way, too. Guess it
>works for us!

I'm just the opposite. If I don't have my music, well in advance; and my
presentation blocked before I even start buying fabric, I fold. I've had
too many great ideas that never made it to stage, because I couldn't figure
out how to present them.

Peace
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Group: ICG-D Message: 944 From: Alix Jordan Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Dear Julie:

I believe this was the same trip where the flight crew confiscated her
sewing
>scissors for the duration of the flight - potential weapon. It's never
>happened to me, but be aware of that possibility if you do plan to sew on
>the
>plane.

According to Jacqui Ward, they'll do that all the time, on Canadian air
flights. I used to have a pair of surgical sissors; no points! I'll have
to get another pair, and check things out with airlines, since I'd like to
be able to do pettipoint, while flying.

Peace
Alixandra
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Group: ICG-D Message: 945 From: Timothy Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
That's really good to know since I'm flying Air Canada to Calgary.

Bruno


>According to Jacqui Ward, they'll do that all the time, on Canadian air
>flights. I used to have a pair of surgical
Group: ICG-D Message: 946 From: lisa58@juno.com Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: Re: music and presentation
Finally!!

Someone who is one more or less the same wavelength about presentation.

Although I don't have to have music and presentation BEFORE I buy fabric
(nothing would stop me from buying fabric if it needed to be bought) I
have to have it and my choreography figured out at least, before I can
seriously consider the costume fro stage.

I suck at improvising, and always have some idea of what I want the
character to project, even if I have no idea how to accomplish this.
Thank goodness for friends who help.

Yours in costuming, Lisa A.
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Group: ICG-D Message: 947 From: lisa58@juno.com Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: Re: Sewing at 2:00 a.m.
Dear Stephanie--

If I had a Palm Pilot, I would be playing with it!

As you know, I like to have a lot of beadwork on many of my costumes,
mostly designed that way because I like to do microscopic tedious
repetitive things and stick needles into my fingers. The thing to do is,
design the costume and get your beadowrk ideas. I compose mine so that,
the beaded "medallions" as I call them, on fabric, can be set up and
beaded and then whip-stitched onto the fabric or background. This is
actually advantageous if you even have to seriously clean the costume,
because it's easy to just cut the stitches and then replace the beaded
piece after cleaning. I usually set up my bead "foundation with either
heavy crepe (a synthetic works best) or a true wool as the background,
then I glue or iron a pretty heavy interfacing onto it. The idea is to
have a background fabric that the beads can sort of "sink into"--then
they are less likely to rub against the threads and break off. Remember,
beads are glass, and a lot of them together are heavy. They also have
sharp edges. So you need a foundation with some substance to support
them, if yo u are planning on having a large area completely filled in
with beads.

(In Calgary, at CC, I'll be giving this as a workshop). To glue on the
interfacing, I use Aleene's fabric glue. Let it sit and dry. I usually
use a pretty dark wool, if possible. I like to stick with dark thread to
sew the beads on. I use quilting thread, but beading thread (NYMO) is
okay, it just gets expensive, because you go through a lot of thread.
Next get your design traced on the surface. Then serge or zigzag the
edges so it doesn't fray, because you're going to be handling it a lot
and turning it different ways to apply the beads.

To make the whole thing portable, I set up a plastic organizer with all
the beads I"ll need for the project (not every single bead, but
reasonable amounts of each type). The best prices on these are often at
hardware or sports stores, look in the fishing supplies section or the
area where they have all the tool boxes displayed. Buy one that is
reasonably priced. Crafts stores have those "embroidery thread" boxes.
These are good too, except that they don't have enough compartments and
the each compartment is too big. I also store beads in plastic tubes.
Cut a top sheet out of thin foam latex and place it over the open
compartments before you shut the case. This will keep all the beads from
flying out. It's also a good way to store spare bead needles. You will
also need a few very shallow plastic bowls (blister packs work well) to
put the beads in while you're actually working on them, and a little
scissors. I keep everything in a special tote bag that I prepare the
night before. I'll also have a little piece of chalk (to refresh the
pattern), lots of extra thread, and my beeswax or Thread HEaven .
Travelling with beads is not for the faint-hearted, but it is possible to
get a lot done. The key is preparation the night before departure.

Yours in costuming, Lisa A.
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Group: ICG-D Message: 948 From: Stephanie Carrigg Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: Re: music and presentation
> I'm just the opposite. If I don't have my music, well in advance; and >my
presentation blocked before I even start buying fabric, I fold. I've >had
too many great ideas that never made it to stage, because I couldn't >figure
out how to present them.

I work similiar to Alix, I usually have my music be my source of inspiration
and work out the presentation from there. The costumes usually come out of
the music. I hate having a kick butt costume and no idea how to present it
on stage. I am doing that now with my Castle Blood costume from this past
season. I was the Angel of Death ( www.castleblood.com if you want to see
it, go to the crypts section and look up Mortia) and it really should be on
stage, but because I didn't create it with stage in mind, my brain can't
switch gears to stage for this piece. Arrgh

Steph

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Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 3:05 PM
Subject: [ICG-D] music and presentation


>
> Dear Sandy:
>
> >We usually end up scrambling to make the tape the night before we leave,
> >and designing the presentation by discussion along the way, too. Guess
it
> >works for us!
>
> I'm just the opposite. If I don't have my music, well in advance; and
my
> presentation blocked before I even start buying fabric, I fold. I've had
> too many great ideas that never made it to stage, because I couldn't
figure
> out how to present them.
>
> Peace
> Alixandra
> eddana@hotmail.com
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Group: ICG-D Message: 949 From: marymorris@aol.com Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: Re: Digest Number 117
In a message dated 01/29/2001 9:15:59 PM Central Standard Time,
ICG-D@yahoogroups.com writes:

<< Travelling with beads is not for the faint-hearted, but it is possible to
get a lot done. The key is preparation the night before departure. >>

A friend of mine who does a lot of Native American beadwork and travels with
it has mentioned to me one special hazard of air travelling with beads - if
you are carting a LOT of them, some types of glass seed beads will show up
'dark' on X-ray and you are likely to get your luggage searched. Having
everything nicely organized as described will make it less painful.

Mary
Group: ICG-D Message: 950 From: MicheleSol@aol.com Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: Re: Digest Number 117 - Beading workshop
In a message dated 01/29/2001 9:15:44 PM Central Standard Time,
ICG-D@yahoogroups.com writes:

<< As you know, I like to have a lot of beadwork on many of my costumes,
mostly designed that way because I like to do microscopic tedious
repetitive things and stick needles into my fingers. The thing to do is,
design the costume and get your beadowrk ideas. I compose mine so that,
the beaded "medallions" as I call them, on fabric, can be set up and
beaded and then whip-stitched onto the fabric or background. This is
actually advantageous if you even have to seriously clean the costume,
because it's easy to just cut the stitches and then replace the beaded
piece after cleaning. I usually set up my bead "foundation with either
heavy crepe (a synthetic works best) or a true wool as the background,
then I glue or iron a pretty heavy interfacing onto it. The idea is to
have a background fabric that the beads can sort of "sink into"--then
they are less likely to rub against the threads and break off. Remember,
beads are glass, and a lot of them together are heavy. They also have
sharp edges. So you need a foundation with some substance to support
them, if yo u are planning on having a large area completely filled in
with beads.

(In Calgary, at CC, I'll be giving this as a workshop) >>

Can I sign up now. (snicker!)

Michele Jaye Solomon
Group: ICG-D Message: 951 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 1/29/2001
Subject: Re: Post con let down
At 12:40 PM 1/28/01 -0500, you wrote:

>
>TWENTY YEARS Jeff waited to do General Ursus and his moment of glory was
>stolen from him. Sometimes, costuming sucks. Will we do it again next
>year? You bet your britches we'll be there.
>
>Hugs,
>Susan


Okay, both Worldcon and Costume Con can still see those costumes in
competition. Come to one! Soon! Let us see them!


Pierre and Sandy